The rhetorical technique is equivalent, but crandc does totally blow it on moral equivalence; I don't think that's her point, though. She did kind of Godwin the thing though.
See I don't think the rhetorical technique was equivalent. There are many, many people who have questioned Brittney Griner's gender. More people now that she is not playing in the olympics because they have gender testing. It's not just looking at anyone and saying hey, I think that person might not be 100% female or whatever. It's looking at someone with a lot of characteristics that make people go hmm. If she had said "It's like looking at someone who works at a school where little kids were being molested that people have questioned in the past about the same thing is a child molester" That would have been the same. Then going on to say "just wondering" is silly also because he is not just wondering. Many people have been, and many articles have been written on the subject
Good point that even the rhetorical equivalence was sketchy. It's close from a layman's perspective, but logicians tend to sneer at "close enough". Many people speculating doesn't get you much closer to the truth, though... It's funny because knowing or not knowing affects nothing in any meaningful way. Griner being a hermaphrodite doesn't save Greece's economy. Griner being "completely" a woman doesn't save Spain from riots of 50% youth unemployment. ...also what an odd world that would be if our world economy was dependent on Griner being both a hermaphrodite and "completely" a woman. Someone double-booked the drama.
The only thing worthy of making me "angry" is being smeared as a homophobe. I suppose that's considered intelligent discourse, however. Also, it's false to say the only place the truth can come is from Griner. If she participates in the Olympics, testing there will say if she has naturally high levels of testosterone.
How did Greece and Spain come into play here? The majority of message board conversations are based on speculation. Griner's name came up, and I just found it odd that crandc would act so insulted that others may speculate about her genetic make-up. I even posted that the sports' world has a very narrow view of gender, yet as we've seen in a few other cases, with Caster Semenya being the most recent example, not all female athletes have the same genetic composition. If you don't want to discuss it because of it being me you're discussing it, well, that's fair and your prerogative, but to dismiss the opinion outright isn't really fair to those female athletes who already have been unable to compete in Olympic sports because of high levels of testosterone. It would be nice to have an intelligent conversation on this, and how sports could maybe be changed to allow for these natural outliers, but when the first call is "HOMOPHOBE", it's obvious that a serious conversation is not in the cards.
What were you angry about the other night? :MARIS61: For the record.... I don't think any of PapaG's posts would indicate he's a homophobe. He asked a question that many people have asked. I get why Griner would be offended by the question and why she's bothered by the speculation. But nobody here should really be taking offense to the inquiry - IMO, there's not really anything I've seen him say on the topic that would indicate he's a homophobe, his comments have come more from a place of inquiry, observations he has made about Griner, and science/genetics.
I don't think PapaG is a homophobe; I just think SlyPokerDog is a total ass who is using clumsy rhetorical techniques to bully other people in the conversation.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1151526/5/18/index.htm Anybody else remember this lady? Nobody ever accused Mary Decker of not being "traditionally feminine".....but at one point in her career, she somehow flunked a PED test for having "excess testosterone." If you want to knock a jock off their pedestal, you can always find a way to do it. Jealousy is a powerful thing.
