I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Is he seriously mentioning Zach's points per possession against from summer league?

    Also, apparently all our young guys and coaches will be going to Grgurich's camp soon.

    Neil also doesn't know what "sublimate" means.

    "We would have loved to have gotten a veteran wing who would have been our 6th or 7th guy. Wouldn't have happened in FA. We were caught off guard. We thought the AC TPE would have huge value in the league. out there. Teams not giving up quality players like in the past. Teams weren't willing give up players to get more caproom as in the past."
     
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    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    Not only that but he has already traded our own 2019 and 2020 second round picks. And we didn't have a second round pick in 2017 when there were some good guys available.
     
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    I know you have been a supporter of Neils and I too have become somewhat concerned about what this next season brings as I view it as highly weighted as to weather to make big time changes, which would include GM,Coach and/or players.
    If he can orchestrate a deal between now and lets say dec for that missing balanced piece, it could make a huge difference in this team taking that next step. I think the next several months the trade market will heat up even more as teams are forced to make more impact decisions one day or the other. I also think that CJ or Dame will be part of "THE DEAL" lol, if it comes about.
    Its going to be fun to look back in a years time and see just how right and/or wrong we all have been about the rise or doom of this team!
    Rip City
     
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    Since 90% of the TPE around the league expire without being used, I'm suprised that NO believed that it had a lot of value (based on yesterday's interview). To me that was a clear indication that he struggles understanding the dynamics of the 'marketplace'.
     
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    then he goes on & says that the plan of giving up assets for cap space is a 'fools errand' for 90% of the league. It looks like he was trying to find a fool to be able to acomplish his FA plans.
     
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    Paul is good at buy seconders whenever he wants. Just a thought?
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I had the same thought. Can also get them thrown in with other trades.
     
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    Right or wrong this part seemed really obvious to me. Not sure why some thought it was about money.

    1. Olshey was very blunt about the reasons for not bringing back Ed Davis and it had very little to do with money. It's all about clearing more playing time for Collins. They didn't want to bring Davis back and then cut his role and playing time. Collins' ability to "spread the floor and pass out of the high post" is a big plus for a team that seems finally to be dealing with its shortage of long-distance shooters.
     
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    I believe wb4 can guard 1-3 against most teams.
    So when Turner plays like ass, or harkless goes Mia. I expect to see wb4 in getting minutes.
    But I also expected better coaching from stotts in the playoffs.
    So who know what will happen. Maybe we'll see Nik.:deadhorse:


    I wasn't sold on wb4 last year. But his defense alone should get him minutes.

    Sorry for slow replies
    I have to be careful with electronics.
     
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    Five things I knew before and after watching the interview.
    1. NO only takes interviews where he can control the narrative.
    I would rather they made Collins compete for minutes instead of clear out the guys who threatens to take minutes from him.
     
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    That's not always true; in 2017 Olshey had already spent the cash allowed and so no 2nd rounder could be bought. And when you spend two future second rounders to buy one, like this year, then you start to run out of assets to use to buy another.
     
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    Right, if it's not about the money; why not sign Ed and let him work with Collins some more and then trade Ed at the deadline. In fact, why didn't he trade Ed for a second rounder at last year's deadline? And Napier, who was looking really good at the deadline?
     
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    I think it was more like, they were going to play Collins ahead of Ed based on his skill set and the offense they want to run, so in fairness to Ed they thought he should go to a team where he would play more and earn a bigger contract. I think they were doing Ed a solid by being honest with him.
     
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    Here is a quote from the interview: "We thought for sure the Allen Crabbe trade exception would have huge value in the league. And like I said, teams just are not in the business of giving up quality players the way they were because I think everybody understands they’re going to have to pay the freight this summer for what everybody did back in 2016 and there just wasn’t as many pieces in the marketplace to do the absorption deals we’ve seen in the past."
    Just what the hell does that mean? It seems like if what everyone did in 2016 was overspend, then they would want to get rid of some contracts, so the TPE should have been worth something.
    BTW, in another quote he says "everyone" overspent in 2016; that is surely an exaggeration; some clubs had more sense.
     
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    I think this is right. I think they respected Ed enough to encourage him to go where he wanted. Not saying I would have done it that way, but it appears that they did.
     
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    He competed for those minutes last year. He proved he deserved more. As much as I hate losing Ed, Collins earned those minutes.
     
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    I don’t really agree that Collins proved much of anything last year. His stats were pretty bad (not that stats can tell everything), he was definitely good on defense. I think getting rid of Ed, just for Zach to get more minutes just reduces the amount of quality bigs you have.
    You could argue they were both liabilities on offense and you in the current NBA it’s hard to play two guys with out much of an offensive game at the same time. I just don’t see how playing Zach all of Ed’s minutes makes the Blazers better. Since Zach is not as good as Ed at least right now in my opinion.
     
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    WB4 cannot guard SFs. He'll consistently habe a 4-5 inch disadvantage. Guys will just shhoot over him.
     
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    Badwin's standing reach = 8'-4"
    Harkless' standing reach = 8'-6"
    Jimmy Butler = 8'-5"

    I agree he'd be a a severe disadvantage, but he could do it for 4-5 minutes per game.
     

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