I'm So SICK & TIRED of Neil Olshey

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Apr 22, 2018.

Moderators: 7

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
  7. Strenuus
Page 64 of 66
  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,105
    Likes Received:
    40,466
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If any of the statements in the post you were quoting were remotely serious, then perhaps I might have been saying that. But of course, they weren't, so no, I was not saying that.

    Even if I had been serious, then my contention would not have been that the contracts had value because they were expiring, but simply that they would no longer have negative value if attached as salary ballast for a trade involving another player on the roster that was actually desirable (if, in fact, we have one that we would be willing to part with).

    But thanks for the giant list of contracts. Super helpful.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Dec 13, 2018
    #1261
    e_blazer likes this.
  2. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    20,970
    Likes Received:
    32,864
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yeah, I like to be helpful....and sorry if I misinterpreted that part of your post
     
    wizenheimer, Dec 13, 2018
    #1262
  3. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,284
    Likes Received:
    28,763
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    Just two comments:

    1. I’m not trying to convince anyone regarding whether NO should stay or go. All I’m saying is that certain moves (like the Carmelo option some people- not me BTW, have been clamoring for) don’t become available for a couple more days. I think we can wait that long before the lynching party.

    2. The only opinion that really matters regarding the future of Olshey in Portland is Jody Allen’s. So people can vent all they want, but ultimately we’re going to just have to wait and see what happens.
     
    e_blazer, Dec 13, 2018
    #1263
    hoopsjock likes this.
  4. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    Obviously most of us in this forum are more towards the hardcore fan side but if the team is making money (even with a high payroll) then why would Jody Allen replace Olshey?

    It's kind of like what is going on with the Pac-12 right now. There is no excuse for the way it's being run by Larry Scott but the rich presidents that make the decision whether to keep him around or not think he's doing a good job because they are making more money than they were before. Their opinion is pretty much all that matters right now.
     
    hoopsjock, Dec 13, 2018
    #1264
  5. Propagandist

    Propagandist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2017
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    7,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why? Because a precipitous drop lies ahead and presumably smart people, or people surrounded by smart people, try to head that shit off at the pass. The value of the franchise is surely cemented and growing, but attendance will and appears to be dropping...
     
    Propagandist, Dec 13, 2018
    #1265
    e_blazer and Hoopguru like this.
  6. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    16,302
    Likes Received:
    26,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Business Owner
    Location:
    North Plains
    While certainly possible that there is a drop at some point, it's just a guess at this point that fits certain narratives. Franchise values continue to climb at an investment rate that is very difficult to match with your money in other investments. When was the last time the value of the Blazers decreased from one year to the next? I'm not sure if it's happened before, at least not recently. With television and other revenue it's still likely that even a drop in attendance wouldn't result in the team losing money, especially after next season when some of the bad contracts start coming off the books.

    I'm not saying this is the right approach. Heck, I much prefer an owner like the younger Paul Allen who tried to buy titles even though he sometimes lost money on it. I get what you are saying that they should be prepared for consequences of being happy with the status quo but this huge drop off you are referring to may never happen.
     
    hoopsjock, Dec 13, 2018
    #1266
    TorturedBlazerFan and Propagandist like this.
  7. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    65,992
    Likes Received:
    52,276
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    N.E.P.
    Wow. Seeing that lists of contract amounts actually makes me feel better about our current situation.
     
    THE HCP, Dec 14, 2018
    #1267
    TorturedBlazerFan likes this.
  8. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2014
    Messages:
    19,725
    Likes Received:
    16,290
    Trophy Points:
    113
    wow...does put it in perspective a bit. The NBA is a Marketing Machine for sure!
     
    Hoopguru, Dec 14, 2018
    #1268
    Orion Bailey and TorturedBlazerFan like this.
  9. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    21,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    See? We are just fine!
     
    Orion Bailey, Dec 14, 2018
    #1269
  10. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,284
    Likes Received:
    28,763
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    I guess, if having the fifth highest team salary in the league, being almost $30 million over the salary cap, almost $8 million into the luxury tax, and being out of the playoffs in the standings today constitutes being "just fine". ;)
     
    e_blazer, Dec 14, 2018
    #1270
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  11. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    28,909
    Likes Received:
    9,545
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Phone Psychic
    Location:
    The Deep State, US and A.
    When I see Neil's idiot-face on tv:

    [​IMG]
     
    Fez Hammersticks, Dec 14, 2018
    #1271
  12. Orion Bailey

    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    26,285
    Likes Received:
    21,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You must be color blind and missed my GREEN font. LOl ;)
     
    Orion Bailey, Dec 14, 2018
    #1272
    TorturedBlazerFan and e_blazer like this.
  13. UKRAINEFAN

    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    13,648
    Likes Received:
    10,977
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    un-retired
    Location:
    Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Ukraine
    I think it was reported that she did give approval to a minor trade proposal; however then I assume the other team didn't go for it.
     
    UKRAINEFAN, Dec 14, 2018
    #1273
    BonesJones and TorturedBlazerFan like this.
  14. Labinot41

    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2017
    Messages:
    9,264
    Likes Received:
    8,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fucking brutal what Neil did to Dame
     
    Labinot41, Dec 30, 2018
    #1274
    Five Second Violation and TorturedBlazerFan like this.
  15. beast crnjo

    beast crnjo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2018
    Messages:
    3,469
    Likes Received:
    2,630
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This whole era just needs to end already. Can olshey, Stotts and roster needs massive overhaul
     
    beast crnjo, Dec 30, 2018
    #1275
    oldmangrouch likes this.
  16. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    Attendance has been almost identical for the last several years. Why do y ok u think it appears to be dropping?
     
    CupWizier, Dec 31, 2018
    #1276
  17. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,060
    Likes Received:
    8,157
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    I missed it! Was there a fight??
     
    jlprk, Dec 31, 2018
    #1277
  18. Propagandist

    Propagandist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2017
    Messages:
    3,875
    Likes Received:
    7,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Every game I go to there are empty seats all over the place. It didn't used to be like that. Furthermore, the intensity in the crowd isn't there like it once was. Feels like 3/4s of the energy... It's noticeable.
     
    Propagandist, Dec 31, 2018
    #1278
  19. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired
    As long as the seats are sold, that's all that concerns any team and the Blazers continually have been in the top 10 and at almost 100% capacity for tickets sold.
     
    CupWizier, Dec 31, 2018
    #1279
    Propagandist likes this.
  20. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,265
    Likes Received:
    7,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired

    and then hopefully in 10 years we are back to where we are now.
     
    CupWizier, Dec 31, 2018
    #1280
Page 64 of 66

Share This Page