I don't embrace it. You just choose to continue it by pretending it only comes from one area, and blaming said area for all the divisiveness. Blatant racial shit, but you can't tell me where or how he fueled the fire of a witch hunt. What he said din't do what you think it does, but it helps your story, that he is divisive and creating some sort of race riot. Whatever you choose to believe. It's all Barry's fault!!
It's amazing without going there how you are able to nail front page Drudge stuff. Just uncanny how in tune you are with the other talking heads. Amazing!
I did check out Drudge. You mentioned it, so I checked it out. I think I'll check it out more often, because I see none of this one the news right now. Of course, the main news is the USSC openly mocking Obama's lawyers in oral arguments. Highly entertaining!
Here is something else from Drudge. Didn't know this either, and I wouldn't say it helps out Zimmerman/whitey (or Hispanics, but whatever). http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/03/28/sanford-police-originally-wanted-to-charge-zimmerman/
no charge. Well, maybe have a charge with insufficient evidence to get a conviction. just infinite detention while they build their case. Denny's a big fan of this, if you haven't heard.
Manslaughter, at least. In Florida, manslaughter, defined as: The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder . . . is a second degree felony punishable by up to 15 years in state prison regardless of whether the act may have been intentional or not.[2] If manslaughter is committed upon a child via culpable negligence under FL statute 827.03(3), then the crime is aggravated manslaughter of a child which is a first degree felony punishable by up to 30 years in state prison.[3] The penalty is the same if it is committed upon the elderly or disabled. Also, under the 10-20-Life system, if a firearm is used in any way then the penalty will be raised to the next degree.[4]
The available information doesn't point to manslaughter, though. Unless you just want to change the known facts in order to try and get a conviction, of course. You need the known facts to point to the actual charge. You can't just charge, and then hope you find the facts to fit the charge during an investigation. LOL If that's the case, why not just charge first-degree homicide for every shooting, and make the charged plead down from that point? I don't think you understand at all how the DA's office goes about its business.
the known FACTS can point to manslaughter, if you take out Zimmerman's statements as facts. I don't understand why his statements,as the one who pulled the trigger, would be considered facts in the case.
The police should arrest anyone who shoots someone else under any circumstances and let the courts sort out the guilt/innocence issue. The facts DO point to manslaughter, since there's a dead body. I'm not saying the guy is guilty, but I am saying it's not up to PapaG or me or EL PRESIDENTE or the cops to decide he's guilty or innocent.
There is at least one witness who corroborates Zimmerman's story. Or do we just disregard witness statements as well?
Plus at least one eyewitness told a story the corroborates what Zimmerman told the cops. Of course, we could just disregard all the known evidence, and it would all be good, it appears. Unless the eyewitness, who apparently didn't even know Zimmerman, is in on this racist conspiracy.
the witness seems to enter the picture after scuffle has already started, however. I am not trying to disregard his statement. But could zimmerman have initiated the scuffle, and then shot after Trayvon was getting the better of him? Does that count as self defense?
No, it's you who doesn't know what the fuck you're talking about. Ignore the fact there's a dead body, shot with Zimmerman's gun. Proclaim Zimmerman's innocence because you're the judge. Fool.
A dead body doesn't not automatically indicate that manslaughter can be charged. I'm not proclaiming anybody's innocence; I'm going by the actual known facts, and the actual police PDF that was released. The investigation is still in process; perhaps more information will be found that supports a manslaughter charge. You still seem to think that the DA should charge first, and gather evidence to support that charge second. That's not how it works in the USA. It's basic stuff. :MARIS61: What are you, 12?
Uh oh Denny. Told you that you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. :MARIS61: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017852036_trayvonfacts28.html Exactly what El Prez and I have been posting. You go ahead and violate FL law, though! That way Zimmerman gets off on a technicality, which would be a shame if more info comes out showing it really was manslaughter, or even murder.
So anyone can shoot anyone in florida and claim "reasonable fear of imminent death" and not get arrested? That's absurd. http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-district-court-of-appeal/1192686.html
