Imagine you are George Zimmerman

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  1. PapaG

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    The police never told Zimmerman to stay in his car. At least get the facts correct.
     
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    This story is juicy. I'm loving how riled up everyone is. In the end justice will be served. I have a good feeling Zimmerman's going to do some jail time.
     
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    You're jumping to the conclusion of what he states when there were no other witnesses, though. There wasn't a witness to say who hit who first, or what actions Zimmerman was partaking before an altercation.
     
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    Its not jumping to conclusion if he gave an account of what happened and its corroborated by physical evidence.
     
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    How do you know the physical evidence corroborated? If Zimmerman was punched in the face or scraped, how do you prove whether it was self defense, or retaliation by the dead black kid?
     
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    An eyewitness saw the 'fight'. The same eyewitness that made the DA decide not to press charges, even though the police felt they could. Two of us are arguing based on the available information, and others seems to be using the "what if" argument. "What if" doesn't win cases, and can even be the basis for a malicious prosecution civil suit against the DA and the county.
     
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    He said he approached by Treyvon, punched in the face and was on the ground and Treyvon was smashing his head into the ground.

    Police reported noted a broken nose, bloody face and injuries on the back of his head as well as his "back being wet". :MARIS61:

    It seems pretty consistent with his version of the story and there is nothing really to prove otherwise. So it would be reasonable to conclude that this is likely what happened.
     
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    It's really sad to me how few people here seem to understand the basic requirements for filing criminal charges on a citizen. Then again, Obama did get elected, and will probably be re-elected, so nothing surprises me anymore.
     
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    There was also a witness that heard shrieking and screaming coming from the younger man. Almost as though he was getting smothered by the larger 300lb man.

    Zimmerman weighed double what Morgan did. Unless Morgan had a gun, the shooting is not self defense. Its like me getting in a fight with a 100lb unarmed 14 year old and shooting him. Ridiculous. Its clear Zimmerman has mental issues.
     
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    But what if!!! :MARIS61:

    I actually would like to see some of those asking for the DA to ignore the investigatory process and to just file charges to have that happen to them someday, and see how they feel about due process at that point. Due process? What's that? lol
     
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    lol, just cause he got his ass kicked doesn't mean it was self defense. Zimmerman started it. There's no other word except for Zimmermans, because there was no witnesses when the fight began.
     
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    Those Obama freaks are all just black people apologists.

    God bless the white race!
     
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    Martin was also in shape and had like a 5" height advantage. He was 160lbs, so Zimmerman was 5'9" 320lbs?

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    now?
     
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    proof? evidence? anything at all?

    Your case basically boils down to Treyvon having skittles and he's black, so its a hate crime.
     
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    I've read Morgan was 140lbs and Zimmerman was pushing 300lbs. I've read mix reports on the size of the two. You ever been in a wrestling match with someone who weighs a significant amount more than you? Like atleast 100lbs?

    Its a dramatic difference.
     
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    Where did I ever say it was a hate crime? Thats a strawman. Go back to my first post in this thread. I think Zimmerman is a retard who felt drunk with power and was trying to be a hero. I don't think he intentionally went out to kill a young black kid. But, he's obviously stupid and should never of had a gun.
     
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    Nope. Even Martin's dad said it wasn't Trayvon yelling in the 911 call.
     
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    Initial police report says 160lbs, which is probably what was on his driver's license which is often outdated and he is a growing boy so he's probably bigger. I've read Zimmerman was around 200-250lbs, some accounts have him lost weight as well. Never seen anything suggesting 5'9", 300lbs.
    Its probably blob vs. muscle, as you can see.
     
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    I watched a dateline special about this and two ladies who heard the screams were certain it was coming from a younger guy getting smothered. Asked who they thought the screams came from they said Trayvon Morgan.
     
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    Why was he not arrested for gun possession? I don't think Zimmerman is exactly the brightest bulb in the bunch either, which is why I tend to think that he couldn't really come up with a good made up story of events and kept in consistent.
     

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