Imagine you are George Zimmerman

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  1. PapaG

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    Looked about 180ish and short. But, let's keep playing "what if" with him being 300 lbs. and Trayvon being 140 lbs, because it's a fun mental exercise.
     
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    Pardon me...the 911 dispatcher told him. Changes my point not one iota.
     
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    It also looks like the cracka azz cracka police are sure protecting "their boy" and not doing an investigation. Seems like they just let him go on his merry way!
     
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    The 911 dispatcher never told him to stay in his car.
     
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    Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty. So was Martin....except he has already been executed.
     
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    executed? looks like you already negated the first part of your statement.
     
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    You are the one who keeps claiming Martin was justifiably killed in self-defense. Make up your mind - was it an execution or a homicide?
     
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    Wrong

    I wish people had the ability to think in more than just binary right/wrong thought patterns, but it's a rarity.

    I'm guessing only Zimmerman truly knows the answer to that one. It's not an either/or situation, and you and many others are making it out to be one. We can only go on the facts as they are known at present.
     
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    And that is where we part company. If Martin had been a white skin-head wearing a swastika t-shirt, and Zimmerman was Jewish or black, my position would be the same. I'm not sure everyone here can make that claim. If that makes my view simplistic - I can live with that.
     
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    What's your position? It sure isn't based on the known facts at this point.
     
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    I have already stated my position: Zimmerman should have stayed in his car. At best, he was guilty of bad judgement. At worst, he was looking for an excuse to start a fight.
     
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    Oh, that's fair, and I agree with it. :)
     
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    Yeah, you are right, he doesn't look to be over 200lbs. Not a large man.

    I could see determined and skinny kid taking him if Zimmerman has no training.
     
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    My previous hypothetical had Travon at 160 and Zimmerman at 210+, but keep it up, it helps with your "I'm the exteme guy" theme.
     
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    BTW, if you want to talk about known facts....

    Zimmerman tells the 911 operator "these assholes always get away"

    Nobody on either side of the debate has claimed Zimmerman knew Martin.....so who are "these assholes" ? Did he mistake Martin for another young, black male? Was he refering to blacks in general? Strangers in his neighborhood in general?

    That statement alone justifies hard questions about his motivation that night. Just don't confuse hard questions with saying he is guilty until proven innocent!
     
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    How is it extreme to comment on the known facts at this point? Zimmerman seems like a pseudo tough guy who lipped off to the wrong guy. Lucky for him, I guess, he had a gun. Unlucky for Trayvon, who would have whipped the guy.

    The numerous "what if" scenarios are useless in a court of law, and nothing contradicts Zimmerman's story at this point.
     
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    Maybe he was referring to thieves? People who commit petty crimes, break into cars, steal jewelry, you know that kind of thing?

    And he was questioned. Did you not see the video of him being brought to the police station in handcuffs?
     
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    maybe he was talking about their actual assholes, duh
     
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    Don't take this as a comment on the shooting, just the media and message-board bias and distortion of the facts.

    There is no factual evidence that Zimmerman has a history of violence, as you claim.

    He was accused of pushing his fiancee after she pushed him, and he non-violently interfered with a cop who was roughing up his friend.
     

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