huh? isnt that exactly what a court is? i mean sure there are "facts" too, but yeah....all they need to do is convince a jury one way or another, and "what if's" help paint that picture for them
Trayon Martin was not a skinny kid. He was a fairly-ripped football player who talked tough and acted tough. He confronted a stranger who was stalking him. Many of us would do the same, but probably not if we felt physically outmatched. If he didn't throw the first punch he was murdered. Since no crime had been committed and no reason existed to believe one was about to be committed, I think some degree of manslaughter is the best Zimmerman can hope for even if Martin hit him first which is probably what happened. He stalked him, ignored the dispatcher's instructions to stop following and let the police check it out, eventually alarmed Martin enough to cause a confrontation. While he may have ultimately shot in self defense, he was the original aggressor and created the situation entirely out of nothing. The desperate "need" to present this as a one-sided racial vendetta against a cute, cuddly, defenseless 14 year old (the photo used by the family and 99% of the media) does nothing to further the cause of justice. Neither does looting stores, offering a bounty, making a hate crime out of it. FWIW, Sanford, FL has a crime rate much higher than the national average: http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/florida/sanford.html
If anything, Mr Martin had the right to use lethal force in self defense. On a different subject how did a guy who supposedly get punched, then his head repeatedly have his head bashed, have time to get his gun out and shoot his attacker? I mean, either his head is getting bashed and he can't do anything OR he's walking away and you don't need to shoot him.
Neither had any legal right to attack the other. Both made stupid mistakes. Now one is dead and one may as well be.
Kill.....................the White Man......................Kill, Kill....................the white man............. Oh, my bad, no whites involved here........
Interesting interview of George Zimmerman's father. Collateral damage for Obama's agenda. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/ne...ill-zimmerman-zimmermans-father-says-03282012
I really thought he was all gung ho against the NDAA of 2012, specifically the infinite detention. He says one thing, but when he doesn't agree he seems to look the other way. :MARIS61:
The funny part to me was that he thought that the police charged people with crimes, and not the DA. You'd think he'd watched enough Boston Legal to know this basic difference in job responsibilities. I don't even care that he called me a "fool", because his flailing was worth the insult.
I know the DA charges people for crime, but the police arrest people for crimes. They obviously did, as the video shows Zimmerman in handcuffs taken to the police station. The police requested an arrest warrant and have the right to hold a suspect while they determine if there is probable cause for arrest. I am fully behind a person's right to own a gun, to carry a gun (even concealed), and to use a gun in self defense. But when a murder is committed (there's a dead body, death by gunshot here), the COURTS should decide what degree of murder (e.g. first degree, manslaughter, or justifiable homicide). If anything, detaining Zimmerman prevents him from taking his own life (guilt over killing someone), a mob from lynching him, prevents him from fleeing, and gives the cops the time to gather information and evidence. People are throwing around "facts" here and elsewhere as if they're decisive. There are facts on both sides of the issue. Who was the guy screaming? Some people may come to the conclusion one way or the other from what's presented on TV or some WWW site, but the courts' actual purpose is to figure those things out, to determine the facts, to determine the truth, to administer justice. Some people here are acting as police, judge, and jury. The only sure fact in this case is the boy was shot. Period. Self defense is a legal defense. It's something you claim in court when charges are filed against you, and you present evidence to prove it. The burden of proof is severe for the prosecution as it should be. One juror says you're innocent and you get off.
The security video of a man who allegedly was in a life and death struggle, had his nose broken, got a concussion, was pinnned to the ground, etc. shows a man without a scratch or a bruise on him, without a bandaid, walking without assistance, seemingly showing no emotion.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475 here is a direct link to the video e: better link [video=youtube;N5OiLQjUcOU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5OiLQjUcOU&feature=youtu.be[/video]
49 seconds, cop is looking at the back of Zimmerman's head as if he was examining it. discoloration at 1:06 or so....its a blurry video, so you can't really tell if its just a reflection or what.
