Imagine you are George Zimmerman

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    So in your America, you are guilty until proven innocent?

    fantastic.
     
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    If Zimmerman stopped the pursuit how did they interact?
     
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    What motivation do the eyewitness have to lie to the police?

    The police questioned Zimmerman, they took witness statements, and thought they didn't have enough to charge him with anything at the time.

    I guess a public hanging of the guy would satisfy the mob? I don't even really care about this case, other than the dipshit President making it a national issue in order to try and rally his own base. Problem is, it turns out Zimmerman is a member of his base as well.
     
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    Do you even know what you are talking about?

    The police don't need to throw him in jail to cooraborate his story.
     
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    Zimmerman and a witness say Martin started following Zimmerman, and initiated a physical altercation.

    It's all out there for public consumption. Read up on the police report.
     
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    You said it yourself. The police have to assume everything he says is a lie? That is just absurd.

    What evidence to the contrary was available? They took his statement, you can't arrest someone without any charges. You can't detain without probable cause. I see nothing, even with all this media coverage to provide this basis of probable cause. So what do you want then, an infinite detention until they are able to get charges available?

    People are basically advocating a witch hunt, but rather than "she's a witch" its become "he's a racist".
     
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    The leaked police report says they cannot account for 1 minute of Zimmerman's activity just prior to the altercation.
     
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    His story has been corroborated by at least one other witness, plus someone else who was watching from their porch. Zimmerman's story matched what the witnesses told the police.

    I'm not sure what else you want the cops to do. Sometimes, you get shot and killed when you try to beat the shit out of somebody, even if you felt they had it coming. It's a tragedy, but all information points to it being self-defense, regardless of Zimmerman walking around like King Shit because he was packing a gun.
     
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    "hey george, how are ya, havent responded to one of your frantic calls for almost a week!"

    "oh not too bad carl....about this dead guy..."

    "self defense?"

    "ummm yes!"

    "slam dunk, lets grab a beer"
     
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    OK. So what? What does that mean to you? Should they assume that Zimmerman did something bad in that minute, and charge him based on a guess?
     
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    This post is so absurd, I refuse to respond. Get a grip.
     
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    Of course, because you can't respond. You are advocating infinite detention without any charges filed or evidence to contradict Zimmerman's statements. I don't know what kind of society you want, but you clearly don't seem to want one based on law and order, but rather on conjecture and rush to judgement.
     
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    It is not the job of the police to be a JURY.

    Fuck people. Someone died.

    Police perform a full and complete investigation. (they did not).

    DA reviews and sends to grand jury. (they did not - and DA of that county said, they don't use Grand Juries, they decide on their own)

    Grand Jury decides if to indict or not.

    Process.

    It is called Law and Order.

    If you don't follow process. If you shortcut the process because you want power or are lazy or racist or whatever reason, don't be surprised if people flip out once in a while.
     
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    i mean best case scenario for zimmerman, is that he got his ass beat by a 17 year old? :lol: what a fucking pussy
     
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    Yes, your well-reasoned post, based on available information, is absurd!!!

    There is a minute where the cops don't know exactly what Zimmerman was doing! That's when the Hispanic dude put on his KKK hood and started beating poor young Trayvon!
     
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    The rush to judgement had already occured by the police.

    You are just spouting words without any understanding of what they really mean.
     
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    An absurd post, and completely naive as to how the legal process works. Have you heard of probable cause? What are you going to charge Zimmerman with, based on the available statements and witness testimony? What is the DA going to tell a grand jury, based on the available police reports?
     
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    LOL

    Look in a mirror.
     
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    I don't give a shit about the minute.

    You are the one who claimed perfect knowledge of Zimmerman's actions - when in reality - you don't know shit.
     
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    How so? They did not close their investigation.

    Do you mean because they did not arrest or detain Zimmerman without evidence, this is their rush to judgement? Or is it that they did not assume Zimmerman was lying despite no other information to contradict his recollection of events? Is that the rush to judgement by the police?
     

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