Iowa has half the population of Portland..you're right about the coasts, we don't like shitty weather here and tend to overcrowd the southern beaches...Maine has empty beaches though. I don't know how many people is a proper population here but I grew up in a county with 3000 people and that county still has about 3000 people..
OK! let us try another direction. If 600 million was too much for China, Should we take the jump to 600 million and hope it turns out alright?
China is a poor example, they've had 15 thousand years of documented growth, we've had a few hundred. I'll say that I think this generation in the US is probably the most careful generation in my lifetime. My son and his friends who are in their mid twenties are not making babies like previous generations have here and as I said...some folks need to die naturally but we've found profit in sustaining their existance which I believe is a factor.
Poor example? Well sir, they are not many that have ever reached the point of having too many. At any rate, assume China is a poor example (one of the very few larger than the US in area), Should we take the jump to 600 million and just hope it turns out alright?
I don't understand your concept of taking the jump..to me it's a slower process that occurs over a much longer timeframe than I think you're talking about here
My guess is there is a short list of countries with too many people. China India Mexico Indonesia Some getting close Kenya Brazil Hati USA <---Should we allow it to get on this list?
You know Marz...at 61 I can look back in wonder at the changes in only six decades has brought to the entire world...I'm not surprised by population increase anymore than I am by the internet. Oregon at least has legal euthanasia laws that I will take advantage of if I'm looking at suffering for a long time or moving on. I probably have never felt humans growth on the planet would turn out right but just tried to keep my own carbon footprint to a minimum even though it won't make much of an impact.
The population of the US has increased by time 2.2 in my life time so far. With the immigration we have now, we will exceed that increase again before end of the century. That is the jump. The way you guys talk, open the gate, it will be more rapid if you get your way.
I think we have that choice to make right now. We will be or we do not have to be on that list, our choice.
It is interesting and correct that you bring up this phrase in this conversation. The individual has little he or she can do in a life time to alter the carbon footprint you leave. The significant change that can be made, is in the number of footprints we all leave. Altering the size of the herd is where significant numbers are manipulated.
