Politics Impeachment pt. II - America Loses!

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  1. Hoopguru

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    I know, just seems that they had compelling evidence especially after voting for witness's it would have been at least a chance. They knew going into this whole ordeal they would get those votes, so was this really just a message to the pubic rather that a real trail?
    Yeah, lets move on. Ive surprised myself I usually don't get so pissed off with politics, not worth it I guess.
     
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    The Dems knew what the outcome would be. This was for the American people to see the truth. Most of the Republican senators, many who were complicit with Trump's incitement, were never going to vote against him, even though they know he is guilty.

    The majority of Americans believe Trump is guilty and now see how corrupt the republican senators who voted to acquit are. Hundreds of Thousands of republicans have left the party, and many more will.

    This is the death knell of the Republican party. They could have voted to save their party, but they voted instead to damn it.
     
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    Senate acquits Trump for 2nd time, as 7 Republicans join Democrats in guilty vote (yahoo.com) The Republicans that stood for acquittal are "the most corrupted individuals" ever. Now that title fits these scabs.
    Except these people with conscious.

    Republican Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania all voted guilty.

    The vote means the Senate cannot bar Trump from holding future federal offices.

    With control of the Senate split 50-50, the House managers always had an uphill battle when it came to convincing enough Republicans to cross party lines and convict a former president who is still very popular with a large part of the GOP base.

    In his closing argument, House manager Joe Neguse, D-Colo., argued, "The stakes could not be higher. Because the cold, hard truth is that what happened on January 6 can happen again. I fear, like many of you do, that the violence we saw on that terrible day may be just the beginning."

    Lead impeachment manager Jamie Raskin, D-Md., urged the senators to think of the future.

    "Senators, this trial, in the final analysis, is not about Donald Trump. The country and the world know who Donald Trump is. This trial is about who we are, who we are," Raskin said.

    Trump lawyer Michael van der Veen, meanwhile, insisted his client did nothing wrong and maintained he was the victim of vengeful Democrats and a biased news media. He called the impeachment proceedings a "charade from beginning to end."

    The managers' task became more difficult Saturday when Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell announced in an email to his colleagues that he would vote to acquit since Trump was already out of office.

    "While a close call, I am persuaded that impeachments are a tool primarily of removal and we therefore lack jurisdiction," the influential Kentucky Republican wrote in the email, which was obtained by NBC News.

    McConnell, who'd rebuffed Democratic efforts to start the trial while Trump was still in office, had condemned Trump's conduct after the riot and said he'd keep an open mind about voting to convict — something he'd ruled out entirely during Trump's first impeachment trial last year.

    McConnell suggested in the email that Trump could still face other penalties.

    "The Constitution makes perfectly clear that Presidential criminal misconduct while in office can be prosecuted after the President has left office, which in my view alleviates the otherwise troubling 'January exception' argument raised by the House," he wrote.

    Opening arguments began on Wednesday, with House managers blaming the riot on Trump's months-long campaign to cast doubt on the 2020 election, and his repeated assertions that the only way he would lose was if the election was "stolen." They focused on his fiery speech on the morning of the Jan. 6 riot, where he urged his supporters to "fight like hell" — and his refusal to take action after they did.

    Trump declined a request from managers to testify at the trial, and refused to even submit a statement for it, facts Raskin urged senators to keep in mind on Saturday.

    "I ask any of you, if you were charged with inciting violent insurrection against our country, and you're falsely accused, would you come and testify? I know I would," Raskin said.

    The trial was the fourth of an impeached president. No president has ever been convicted.
     
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    It didn't matter how compelling evidence was. Compare to attempts to prosecute Klan in the 60s, always got off, or conversely Scott's pro defendants, so obviously not guilty, but evidence didn't matter.

    Trump is a failure as a politician just like a failure in business. On his watch Republicans lost House, Senate and presidency. Looked like McConnell had enough, he got his tax cuts for the rich and right wing judges, but Trump still has a solid base of racists and white evangelicals who consider him their Christ. The only way Republicans can get elected is voter suppression and a fired up base. It wasn't evidence, it was lust for power.
     
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    Yes. They knew from the start that Republicans would vote to acquit. This was to put all the evidence before the American people in a very public way and tie Republicans to their votes to acquit.
     
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    Need a title change to reflect that he was acquitted

    Thx
     
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    Better?
     
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    Not quite. You should add “just like Trump.”
     
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    Nope. Trump was formally acquitted. Gotta stay consistent
     
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    Consistent with what?

    Also, why do we have to stay consistent?
     
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    nah...he was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in the forum of public opinion.....you missed the mini series but Trump's problems are just beginning....Georgia isn't done yet nor is New York....popcorn? And by the way....fuck Donald Trump with a ballot counting machine! The Senate GOP is complicit with the exeption of a handful of senators...you can say the emperor has clothes but we all know better! Trump is a disgrace to the country and the world...there's still a safe place here somewhere where you can gush over his combover but like I said...fuck that guy and the Ted Cruz he rode in on
     
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    consistent like McConnell? They apparently don't have to be consistent on any level.
     
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    Changing titles to reflect reality and the latest updates
     
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    Electric Boogacoup was reality?!?
     
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    Why does S2 edit me to nonsense. I actually said Scottsboro defendants. No idea what Scott's pro is.
     
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    And come on, you're guilty of something.
     
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    We don't do that with every thread. For example, we didn't change "Gamestop: Wall Street + Animal House?" to "Gamestop: EL PRES loses his shirt on memes."
     
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    Nah I'm up still
     
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    I don’t think S2 has any editing function. Your phone or tablet...yeah, autocorrect is a nuisance at times.
     
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