In an infinite Universe: Everything is possible

The universe is not infinite.

 

"Briefly" in our time dimension could be eons in theirs. Long enough to get very, very hungry watching you.

 

no, but it is expanding at an ever increasing rate.

 

prove that and win a nobel prize

 

the statement is a simple logical proposition, not a complex philosophical argument. there are no differing sides or "interpretations" available.

he just doesn't understand the logic and is misusing it for nonsensical wishful thinking.

 

You're right, I re-read it again.

 

Into what?

 

Yes, exactly. That's the mindfuck. There is nothing there that it's expanding into. It's just expanding.

 

Actually you are dead wrong. Infinite possibilities will allow for anything to take place. There could be a species that have evolved for well over zillions of years; and their technology could far exceed what we know today. From the moment Einstien came up with a breakthrough just 100 years ago; propelled our civilization into a much more advanced society. That one discovery accelerated our thinking and technology.

The term "probability" is discussed with "what we don't know" and since you or I or any historical man hasn't proven God doesn't exist, then it cannot be viewed as impossible. And because as you pointed out probable is only used in finite sections or durations; then the concept of God does not apply.

What gets me is how you are so in need to try and break down anyone's philosophy when it related to creation. Its as almost if you fear it or something. My thread didn't discredit athiesm; yet you took offense. In fact, I made it pretty clear that I didn't want to take it to that level. But hey; you want to banter about there is no such thing as God and anyone who believes in God is a joke; then you are more than welcome. I will stick to the concept that anything is possible; therefor God is as possible as the universe happened by chance.

 

Yes that could be one way of thinking. Maybe there isn't a God; yet when we die, something at a moleculer level takes place and we still have some moleculer memory. And I am not debating the existence or non-existence of God. I am just think that quote can open our minds. That we don't always need to look at things as possible and impossible. When the Universe is infinite; then improbable is definitely very possible.

 

WIN

 

That's exactly what I meant.

 

It has to be infinite. At least according to science.

 

The laws of physics are pretty clear on somethings. We can create and destroy matter, but in the process charge and momentum have to be conserved. So sure, we can create matter ourselves, but when you make a proton, an anti-proton goes flying away in the exact opposite direction and if needed, spiral away ccw to the previous cw. It would not be possible to simply POOF a full human, let alone planet into existance. Additionally, it would not be possible to POOF a planet into basically perfect orbit around a sun WHILE creating it's anti-particle copy FULL planet and somehow have that anti-particle planet (WHICH by the way we have never seen planets made of anti-matter before in astronomy), then somehow make it disappear.

 

Again, why are you so quick to try and rain on a creationalist's parade? What do you have to gain? From the way you come about it; it seems you are extremely insecure with what you truly believe. As would be the same thing of one of a creationalist jumping at every chance to make athiests look bad. No matter what end of the spectrum; it's a terrible way of thinking.

Instead take things and interpret it as you will. You are not stupid for not believing in God, but if you believe the universe is infinite, then you are ignorant for thinking those that believe in creation are idiots.

 

creationalist?

 

Yes they are very clear with what we know now. But that is finite thinking. If humanity has a chance to evolve for another 10,000 years; who knows what new laws will be discovered? I remember Denny explaining dark matter and it's new discovery. We have no idea how is was created, nor it's purpose in the universe. Also, there are black holes that science is still baffled by. What happens to those things entering it? Whatever the case; since our universe is infinite; anything is truly possible.

 

What's the question? Are you saying "creastionists" as in what group? That could be hindu, celtic, greek, roman, christian, muslim, or anyone that believes there is such thing as a creator.

 

To win, is to stop wasting money on bills and educate that misinform youth. The US was far behind the world in Reading, Math, Science education scores. Teaching kids something that is not factually proven or accurate in school hurts education.

 

He was just teasing your use of the new word in a previous comment. It was a typo one can assume.