How tf did Powell call out Nick Nurse? Care to actually explain? And CJ wouldve been an all-star this year if he didnt get hurt, so using the "multiple all-stars" argument to bash the job Olsheys done without taking that into account is silly.
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CJ was never in this all-star game, nor has he been in one for all 8 seasons in the NBA. You saying he would've been is not factual at all, it's an opinion. Also, if you're read my criteria that I've listed many times, you would know that I say you need to have at least one all-star that is above average height. CJ is 6-3, the average height is 6-6. And again, CJ is NOT an all-star, so this is a moot point anyway. Last, I'm not bashing Olshey. I'm pointing out the commonality of all NBA champions over the last 30 years. I'm not angry we're not NBA champions, but those who are, should look at roster creatation as the #1 issue.
Lmao. So you're using his injury this year against him since you're evaluating talent based simply off of IF someone has been selected to a popularity contest or not, when he only missed it due to injury. Name an all-star over 6'6 that can score, defend, and shoot that we could have realistically gotten in the past couple years.
I'm using an 8 year sample size against him. He's had multiple 3 week stretches where he's played like an all-star, but has yet to put together a consistent enough run to make it. He hasn't been hurt the last 8 years, so it's not just an injury thing. I'm not saying he can't, but he hasn't. And yes, availabilty is a factor in this. If he makes the all-NBA team at the end of the year, then you'll be right, I'll be wrong and he'll have only missed the all-star game this year because of injuries. It sounds as if you believe all-stars are picked off of their Q Score, which is odd. Even more odd, that teams with the more "popluar" players end up winning more championships. Why would a teams made up of popular players have such a huge advantage in winning titles unless they were actually more talented? I'm not privy to the trade discussions GMs with each other, so anything I said would be me purely guessing, and neither one of us would know if my guesses were real options or not. Other GMs, in both big and small markets, over the last 10 years have found a way to obtain these types of players. These types of players have be selected outside of the lottery, others via trade. You're pretty high on our roster right? So why can't Olshey use all these great assets to get a 2nd all-star? Is it that our roster isn't made up of players that other teams want? They're signed to bad contracts? Olshey can't work out major deals? What's holding him back?
Because most teams trading a star are trying to rebuild and were built to win... I hate using all-star appearances as a gauge of something, its surface level. But im trying to play by your terms. CJ hasn't consistently defended or passed as well as he has this year. I dont think it's a fluke, but you want to say it is and you want to use a popularity contest against him because he was hurt.
Ok... Let's do a friendly wager. I get the teams with 2 "popular" players to win the title this year and you get the rest of the teams. The majority of teams do not have two "popular" players, so if your theory is correct, you should have a better chance of winning. $20?
The the all-star selection is just a popularity contest. I want the teams with 2 or more popular players (aka all-stars) and you get the rest of the teams with 1 popular player or no popular players. You'll be getting way more teams, and popularity doesn't have anything to do with talent, so you should have a great odds. I just want the surface level teams. Deal?
Wait, when tf did I say talent had nothing to do with it? Im simply saying C.J. is all-star caliber and wouldve made it this year if he was hurt, and that using the all-star game to evaluate everything is silly because Dame's been snubbed in the past and we all know he was as good as some players in that game. The mental gymnastics you're doing is quite insane though, I'll give you that.
"simply off of IF someone has been selected to a popularity contest or not" "you want to use a popularity contest" If you do feel all-star selections are closely linked with talent level, then that's fantastic, because that was my original point. I heard your story that CJ would've made the all-star game this year if circumstances were different, but it does not make it true.
Let's do a fun $20 (or more if you'd like) wager to the charity of the winners choice: I win if CJ misses the all-star game for the 9th straight season in 2021-22. You (and all of us) win if CJ makes it for the first time in 2021-22. Deal?
They are obviously linked, but the point I'm making is someone can have the talent level of an all-star without being selected, so using it as a hard line gauge of talent is silly and using it to speak against CJs ability is even sillier. Him improving his PPG by 3 would greatly increase his chance of being an "all-star" but him becoming an average defender would be a bigger improvement and would help this team much more even though its do less for his chances at being an all-star. CJ is easily playing at an all-star level, so it's silly to sit here and act like we only have one all-star talent wise.
There are probably 100 players who have the talent to make the all-star team. I'm referring the ones who actually make the team because that's a whole different level. My theory is that no team with only one all-star who also is below average height will win a title. It's been true for 30 straight years, I'm willing to bet it will be true again this year. If you think a team who fits that criteria will win a title this year, please say so. I'm willing to bet anyone who wants to take that side of the equation, but nobody ever wants to take me up on it even when they dismiss the theory as weak.
