Interesting Rudy rumor

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Someone left the cake out in the rain...I don't think that I can take it...

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  2. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Is that a song you're writing?

    If so, it's terrible.
     
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    Well, as i remember it, Bickerstaff wasn't a great talent evaluator in his stints as general manager, and as someone pointed out the analogy with Ellis doesn't work because Rudy won't be a starter. Not to mention he is probably not as good a defender as Ellis and his mental toughness sure has to be questioned. I think sometimes it's better to move on early than later. We probably wasted a lot of time waiting for Sergio, Outlaw and Martell to develop, although who knows, one (of two) of them might still go on to be something. I'm ready to move on with Rudy.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Honestly I think Cho might be waiting until Worlds are over. There's almost no chance that Rudy will sandbag and intentionally shit the bed if he's playing for his country, so maybe if he plays well and has a nice tournament other GMs will be convinced that he's not only salvageable, maybe even valuable.
     
  5. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Also, if not, it's terrible.

    Not is the correct answer. It's "MacArthur Park". If you don't know it, you really should. It's a perfect lament for KP's demise.

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    barfo wrote this in the 1960s:

    [video=youtube;6H0BD2eWIww]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H0BD2eWIww&feature=related[/video]

    He now seeks to distance himself from it. Which I think is a sad thing.
     
  7. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I thought he wrote that "What.. what in the Barfo" song.

    [video=youtube;fbGkxcY7YFU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU[/video]
     
  8. Pinwheel1

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    So you don't think CP3's wish list was real? So Rudy did not tell Minnesota not to bother trading for him. So Rudy has said he loves playing in Portland? So there are plenty of NBA markets bigger than Boston, Chicago and New York?

    New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA - 21,976,224
    2) Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA - 17,775,984
    3) Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City, IL-IN-WI - 9,725,317
    4) Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV - 8,211,213
    5) Boston-Worcester-Manchester, MA-RI-NH - 7,465,634

    What exactly do you consider "plenty"
     
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    Better version.

    [video=youtube;gh4zvQfDhi0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh4zvQfDhi0&feature=avmsc2[/video]
     
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    Indeed; Al's parodies are usually better than the source material.
     
  11. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Anytime Barney gets decapitated it's "win" in my book.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    To whoever said a couple of weeks ago that Bickerstaff is an old has-been--he remains a better coach than McMillan.

    Rookie Detlef Schrempf took the Mavs sub SF job from 3rd-year Dale Ellis, so Motta dumped Schrempf onto Bernie, who did a brilliant job in making him into a catch and shoot star. Ellis was a worse dribbler than Rudy.
     
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    This team needs a consolidation trade.

    Rudy, Matthews, Bayless, Batum. In all honesty, and forgotting for a moment that Batum is the single most overrated player in the history of sports, can someone tell me why any of those guys are better than the other?
     
  14. Rastapopoulos

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    Which one? Was LA on this semi-mythical list or wasn't it?

    Doesn't every player in the NBA do that?

    He probably has. Of course if he had or hadn't it wouldn't mean much, given the anodyne boilerplate that most athletes spout.

    One. Two, if you count the Clippers. Of course, it's also very warm. And full of Spanish speakers.

    (Actually, if we count New Jersey, that's another, and Washington is bigger than Boston. I'd say Rudy cares about playing (so no Washington, as they have three heavy rotation guards) and winning (so no NJ, or Washington.)

    And are you seriously telling me that Rudy himself, in deciding where he wanted to play, Googled the info you just gave me?
     
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    Agreed. Or it needs to have its own D-League team.

    Well, Batum's a lot taller than the others.

    I see Batum as the clear starter at SF, and if he's healthy, should play 30+ mpg. And Roy's a 35ish mpg guy at 2G. And Miller is 30-35mpg at PG. That leaves 44-49 mpg to distribute amongst Matthews, Bayless and Rudy.

    Bayless probably thinks he has dibs on whatever PG minutes Miller doesn't play, except for a few when Roy really is the playmaker, but I don't like that plan much. Matthews has dibs on the bulk of the backup SF minutes (unless we think Dante can play SF). So my consolidation trade would be Bayless for future considerations or a real live PG.
     
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    Of course, Schrempf didn't get much PT until he got traded to Indy. And then he ended up in Seattle too.

    And Ellis was probably an even worse defender than Rudy. Rudy at least makes an effort and gets a fair number of steals.
     
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    At the same time, at what point of Frye' career had he ever been a 3 point shooter prior to PHX? Not in NY. Not in Portland. So why would it have even crossed anybody's mind that he is a good shooter from the outside?
     
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    You kind of lost me. I am not really sure what your point is in this thread. So you think Rudy wants to stay in Portland and we should keep him?
     
  19. oldguy

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    The bio in the OP didn't mention that this was one (the first?) of the many great trades of Trader Bob Whitsitt. Later, after Ellis was busted for drunk driving, and iirc roughing up is wife, TB moved him for Ricky Pierce....yet ANOTHER great trade.

    Go Blazers
     
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    Fuck. I meant to type ELLIS.
     

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