Interesting stat re: CJ McCollum

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    ya a bit of chicken or egg situation
     
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    Hmm. Would not have predicted that.
     
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    James lamphear Well-Known Member

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    CJ wants people consider him a star and stars in this league must score a lot of points. Stars average per game must be high. CJ wants to be a star in this league. To me CJ is really is over paid for wants he does on this team. The reason is he to small to guard 2 guards in this league. He doesn't make other players around him better. He really one dimensional player. But he lucky that we got a GM that over pays his players.
     
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    Again, I don't think this has anything to do with CJ - it has to do with our offense. Sharing the ball makes a team harder to defend. Any high-volume shooter taking fewer shots normally results in more passing/sharing, resulting in better/easier shots because the defense doesn't know where it's coming from. CJ is a damn smart dude, but he's playing a damn stupid system. He's not a natural passer - nobody on the team is, Dame included - but if he was in a system that created passing opportunities I have no doubt he could at least be average.
    We'd be far better suited if this team was ran like the Larry Brown Pistons where no player averaged more than 15 fga.
     
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    That first chart is a really weird stat. Why limit it to high frequency shooters? That's basically filtering out the set-up guys, which means you're now looking at non-primary ball handlers. So yeah, someone like CJ, who is a more-than-secondary ball handler in most scenarios, playing alongside a shoot-first PG in Dame, is going to control the ball a lot more than other guys on the list.

    The conclusion may well be valid, but the stats used to get there smell a bit fishy.

     
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    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Someone else has to shoot. Last year Ed Davis satisfied us, Napier did a nice job and Mo was healthy. All you have to do is inform Stotts somehow.
     
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    Do it! Prove it wrong.
    Dame is a point guard and has the ball in his hands pretty much every possession.
    CJ is a shooting guard.
    Have fun with that.
     
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    Is that 16 shots or 16 shots or more?
     
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    16 or less
     
  10. BonesJones

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    And we were still last in assists and and the most dribbles per touch.
     
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    Somebody did, and I admitted I was wrong. Yeesh.
     
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    Unfortunately CJ can't defend the 2 spot like Thompson. Other than that, I agree that he'd be better for the team in a spot up shooting or even slashing role, as opposed to running iso ball through him.
     
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    4 inches shorter has it's disadvantages.
     
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    tykendo Don't Tread On PDX

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    Blazers 1-0 when Dame scores 59
     
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    Blazers 1-0 when CJ score 40
     
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    They just lost to Memphis when CJ scored 40.
     
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    Did they? I stand corrected. Blazers 1-1 when CJ scores 40
     
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    I was in Vegas and was not in the loop on that game.
     
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    This stat is not a big surprise to me. It goes right along with what I have been saying for a couple years......surround CJ and Dame with better players and neither will force as many shots. They would both welcome a more evenly distributed number of shots if possible. The fact that they both actually wanted Carmelo on the team should make that obvious.
     
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    Immediately, I think of the word "execution". Is there hope?
     

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