Trade Irving to Boston for IT and a bunch more

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Like I said, not the same level of player or talent, but I'm not really comparing the player (especially since one was in his prime and the other is barely old enough to have graduated college) so much as the role. Buck's role on those early 90's squads is very similar to Vonleh's role on this team, and honestly I think he's very close to being able to fill that role nearly as well as Buck did.
     
  2. 0-Our!

    0-Our! Noob-ish

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    Agreed! I'd take even "bitter beer face" vs. Mild LeoTARD dumbass I hate ur face any day!:smiley-beerchug:[​IMG]
     
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  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Who were our starting PF and C in the playoffs last year?

    With Plums the year before, we fared much better (2nd round).

    Just sayin'
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Use context. CP3 and Griffin got injured bruh. And the Center position was not the reason we won.

    And Nurkic:

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    Plums
     
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  5. BonesJones

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    I think that Boston will sign Tony Allen, then maybe would could entice them with a trade of Ed Davis for Marcus Smart and BOS's right to Swap 1sts with us in 2018.

    They would have a good, balanced rotation of:
    Irving / Rozier
    Allen / Brown
    Hayward / Tatum
    Morris / Davis
    Horford / Baynes

    With Crabbe leaving, we need a guard to replace him. It's rumored that Smart and Turner have both improved their 3pt shot, and Smart's defense would be a great addition.

    Lillard (36) / Smart (12)
    McCollum (36) / Smart (12)
    Harkless (21) / Turner (24) / Smart (3)
    Vonleh (8) / Aminu (26) / Swanigan (8) / Harkless (6)
    Nurkic (33) / Collins (10) / Vonleh (5)

    Lillard/McCollum 36min
    Nurkic 33min
    Harkless/Smart 27min
    Aminu 26min
    Turner 24min
    Vonleh 13min
    Collins 10min
    Swanigan 8min
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ff-morris-phoenix-suns-charged-felony-assault

     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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  9. dviss1

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    [Lillard (36) / Smart (12)
    McCollum (36) / Smart (12)
    Harkless (24) / Turner (24) /
    Vonleh (15) / Aminu (20) / Swanigan (13)
    Nurkic (33) / Collins (10) Vonleh (5)

    Lillard/McCollum 36min
    Nurkic 33min
    Harkless 24min
    Aminu 26min
    Smart 24min
    Turner 24min
    Vonleh 20min
    Collins 10min
    Swanigan 13min

    Smart at the 3?

    FTFY

    Also, why does everyone want Smart? He is a plus defender but he doesn't stretch the floor. I doubt he'd shoot 33% next season.
     
  10. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Nurkic was injured
     
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    Idk how in the hell we get him but I like smart cause he would give us some toughness and defense on the perimeter that we sorely lack. (looks to me like Davis gets traded in this scenario) Phys Ed is a great guy but also probably the marcus smart equivalent at the PF/C position.
     
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  12. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    He knows this. He's just using his brand of speaking without context.
     
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    You could put Smart at the 3 for a short stretch each game. Done backup 3s in our division: Sefelosha, Roberson, Ingles, Johnson, Muhammad, Barton... Smart would be fine against all of them.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Also there's a difference with plaing the Clippers and Golden State
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    What a fucking dumbass. The guy had nothing to do with the trade and I'm sure he was bummed about it
     
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  16. dviss1

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    Huh???? This is stupid... He's not burning an Ainge #44???
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Boston doesn't have the smartest crackers, this was already established before that video.
     
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    Boston wanted to get rid of IT. A report earlier this offseason quoted him as being clear that he wants to get PAID next summer (like $200 mil worth).

    That being said, my feeling as an outsider is that Boston acted like the team that needed to make the trade when in reality, Cleveland was the team in need.
     
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    It's not that he wants to, it's that he's GOING to. Kyrie is under contract for 3 more seasons at far less than 30MM per.

    • 2017/18 $18,868,626
    • 2018/19 $20,099,189
    • 2019/20 $21,329,752
    They save at least 59.8MM with this deal. :blink:

    Both teams needed a trade and at this point, I'd rather have Kyrie over Fultz (who they could've had if they traded IT earlier).

    Celts have a wealth of draft picks so the one they traded for Kyrie is worse than the #1 they would've used on Fultz and on top of that they got Tatum.

    On it's face it only looks like an over-payment IMHO.
     
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  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The third year is a player option, and therefore basically doesn't exist.

    On the other side, it should be noted that Kyrie waived his trade kicker in order to allow this trade to happen, so that might give an indication that he's happy to go to Boston (or possibly just that he was desperate to leave Cleveland).
     
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