Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... What i'm trying to say is that the excuse of him being young is absolute crap. Who the hell is ripping him here? I'm not. The boy needs his mentality to be reformed.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... So he's not been 'clutch'...the most over used <Censored> term used by dumb basketball fans today...Maybe next year he hits 6 games winners...woohoo...who knows.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... But the shots kobe has to take at the end and what others have to take are different.Secondly do you think MJ is clutch? If you think so you're just shown you're double standards again.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... Being called clutch is just a dumb term...Calling MJ clutch or Carmelo clutch makes the seem like they have some special powers or something when it's just because of their skill and confidence. It's skill and confidence and somes guys just don't hit the end of games shots for whatever reason.Looking at these statistics, it doesn't show you what kind of shots they were...most of these last shots are just lobs or crazy shots that have no chance...and some players take a lot of these shots during a season and just because someone missed 5 more than the other is well, pretty pointless.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... 1-10 means you're not clutch. Plain and simple.2-16 also.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... I don't give a <Censored> what that thing says. Today was a prime example of how Kobe's clutch. He goes into the 4th shooting 4/22, and having a miserable game overall, he hits jumper after jumper to finish with 40, he had 19 in the quarter in one of the Laker's most important games of the season. Being clutch isnt all about the last minute.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... BCB i really do not know if you can comprehend english properly? Where did i bash Lebron?I was stating the obvious.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Mar 9 2006, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OMG who gives a <Censored>...LETS ALL BASH LEBRON! OMGZ HE ISN'T CLUTCH ENOUGH OMGZ...LETS PICK THE ONE THING ABOUT HIM THAT ISN'T PERFECT AND BASH HIM OVER THE HEAD FOR IT..OMGZ...</div>Don't turn this into that. Bron is so unproven in MANY areas. Being clutch goes hand and hand with leading a team and being overly successful when your team needs you.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... Haha, got a PM on my forums about this thread...so I should post this.I think Kobe is approaching Jordan's record for game-winners in a career, in fact. I believe Jordan had 29 total. Kobe with 24 so far?NOTE: This does not include game-tying FG's.1) 12/27/99: Lakers 108 - Mavericks 106 (g-winning FTs)2) 02/13/00: Lakers 113 - Nets 110 (OT g-winning layup with the and-1)3) 05/10/00: Lakers 97 - Phoenix 96 (playoffs, jumper over Jason Kidd)4) 06/14/00: Lakers 120 - Pacers 118 (NBA Finals, off reb and put back)5) 11/16/00: Lakers 112 - Kings 110 (OT g-tying 3 pointer for OT, & jumper for win)6) 02/07/01: Lakers 85 - Phoenix 83 (jumper with 2.7 sec)7) 01/02/02: Lakers 87 - Nuggets 86 (off reb and the jumper)8) 02/22/02: Lakers 96 - Hornets 94 (first career buzzer-beater jumper)9) 03/24/02: Lakers 97 - Kings 96 (fade-away with 36 sec)10) 05/12/02: Lakers 87 - Spurs 85 (playoffs, off reb for the put back)11) 12/06/02: Lakers 105 - Mavericks 103 (28-point game comeback, spin-around jumper)12) 04/04/03: Lakers 102 - Grizzlies 101 (buzzer beater jumper)13) 04/06/03: Lakers 115 - Suns 113 (final jumper with 28.6 sec)14) 02/17/04: Lakers 89 - Blazers 86 (layup and the foul)15) 02/19/04: Lakers 101 - Nuggets 99 (game after the trial, fade-away)16) 03/03/04: Lakers 95 - Rockets 93 (jumper over Yao with 22 sec)17) 03/21/04: Lakers 104 - Bucks 103 (OT jumper with 25 sec)18) 04/14/04: Lakers 105 - Blazers 104 (OT g-tying 3-pointer for OT, & g-winning 3-pt buzzer beater)19) 03/13/05: Lakers 117 - Bobcats 116 (pump fake for the win)20) 11/02/05: Lakers 99 - Nuggets 97 (OT jumper after the Kwame brick)21) 12/04/05: Lakers 99 - Bobcats 98 (g-winning FTs)22) 01/07/06: Lakers 112 - Clippers 109 (game winning off-the-window shot)23) 01/12/06: Lakers 99 - Cavaliers 98 (jumper against Lebron with 8 sec, & Lebron choking)24) 1/27/06: Lakers 106 - Warriors 105 (OT g-winning FTs)
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... Im not saying I wouldnt want Kobe to take it. I said in my first post Carmelo is the most clutch player in the NBA.... According to 82games.com.Now as for the stats it depends what you consider clutch. If you consider clutch making a shot with 24 seconds or less left on the clock then these stats are accurate.If you consider clutch being hitting big shots in the entire 4th quarter then thats you.I would take Bryant hands down but theres no reason why I wouldn't take Melo second.The thing that makes it interesting is that nobody was hitting that many game Winners at Carmelo's age. For being a third year player that is amazing. He has the maturity to be above efficient in the final moments of a game already. To get that part of your game down already is a phenonmenal feat.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Mar 9 2006, 06:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't turn this into that. Bron is so unproven in MANY areas. Being clutch goes hand and hand with leading a team and being overly successful when your team needs you.</div> What does, 'unproven in many areas' mean? Seems like Kobe's had a great time hitting game winners against the Blazers, Bobcats, Warriors, Clippers and Cavaliers lately.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Mar 8 2006, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This doesnt make up for Melo's shitty shot selection. And wtf does this prove?! If Kobe wasnt clutch he WOULDNT BE ON THE LIST.Plus, if im not mistaken, Those 3 seasons that they based it on, A MVP or a player from the Championship team is not on that list.Another way for Kobe/Laker haters to TRY to make Kobe look bad, but actually make yourself look fvcking stupid.</div>you're talking about Melo's shot selection? What about Kobe's??
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Mar 9 2006, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What does, 'unproven in many areas' mean? Seems like Kobe's had a great time hitting game winners against the Blazers, Bobcats, Warriors, Clippers and Cavaliers lately.</div>You made it seem like Bron's only weakness is him not being there in the clutch. He is not perfect in many areas, including defense, leading a team to playoffs, and choking in situations where his team needs him most (whether it be 2nd half of last season when they were once in 5th seed and dropped to 9th seed, or during games when he misses the big shots).
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... So in 'many areas' you mean like 1 or 2 bad things...yeah...okay...
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... Well, many of those things I just classified into leading a team. But for pure skill, his defense is pretty bad, and he is not agressive enough most of the time, sometimes extremely passive even when he has a good shot.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... Lol, the day Bcb makes this thread kobe shows him never to question him.5-22 [first 3]7-11 [4th]He also hit 3 jumpers that only a player like him could hit [not redd :shifty2:]Dogma the difference between Melo and Kobe's shot selection that kobe only takes about 2 shots a game that he won't make. They are usually shots that he has to take because the shotclock is going to expire. Most of kobe's shots he can make.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Mar 9 2006, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you're talking about Melo's shot selection? What about Kobe's??</div>What about it?Dont even say it sucks.... please if you werent just a straight Kobe hater and payed attention to Laker games you would know. But obviously you dont...
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... I'd say Carmelo is probably the best last second shot player in the league. Kobe's the best with a couple minutes to go in the fourth.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Mar 10 2006, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What about it?Dont even say it sucks.... please if you werent just a straight Kobe hater and payed attention to Laker games you would know. But obviously you dont...</div>lmao what are you talking about? Kobe has a much worse shot selection then Melo's. At least Melo isnt trying to bank turnaround 30 footers and trying to knock down long runners. Kobe does take some stupid shots so you can't comment on Melo's shot selection like that.
Re: Is Kobe Bryant clutch? Turns out he's not... See you could say those are stupid shots but kobe is forced to take those 30 footers. The ball is swinged around and if no-one shoots it it comes to Kobe and he heaves a 30 footers. What's amazing is that it goes in.
