Science Is Neil trying to increase value or is he actually screwing this up?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Natebishop3, Aug 5, 2021.

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Is Neil playing mind games or is he actually a moron?

  1. He's playing mind games to increase value

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  2. He's a moron

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  1. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    The guy who made the poll might have a pretty bad impression of Neil Olshey.
     
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    I’m not even convinced this is true to begin with. But even if it was, I could see a scenario in which Toronto asked for something ridiculous.
     
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    His job is to increase value! And it appears to me the Vulcans approve for now.
    Jody imo,has dele-dumped the franchise onto Neil and he has a lot of freedom.
     
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    What ridiculousness that does include CJ but doesn't include Dame do you think would be worthy of simply breaking off talks, when Dame's willingness to stay in Portland is at stake?
     
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    So you just do whatever trade regardless of how beneficial it is to us? C’mon, man.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    There's doing a trade for a sake of a trade and then there's doing a trade to try to save the franchise.

    It's really, really simple to think about. You're welcome.
     
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    I thought NO was underrated 3/4 years ago. Now I know he is Broadway first and GM third. Others are winning the poker face against him.
     
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    This is the most stagnant movement in the history of the English language to be called "scrambling".
     
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    If he wanted Neil fired, do you guys seriously think Neil would still be here?

    This could mean he wants C.J. traded.

    This could mean a trade in general.

    This could mean he wants a championship in Portland.

    This could mean a number of things.
     
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    Don't believe I said that at all--actually I asked a question seeking your perspective/opinion. You're welcome to answer it, if you're so inclined.
     
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    What GM in league doesnt play mind games to increase value? Name one......see you cant!
     
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    It's the more logical choice in my opinion. Neil with no leverage has to try to create some, and this is the only way to do so. I'd like to think he's not THAT inept.
     
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    In 9 years he shown he is. "If they show who they are, believe them the first time."
     
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    The no leverage is his doing — 100% self-inflicted
     
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    The problem starts when they fool themselves instead of the other team.
     
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    I really don't think the answer to this question is a simple "no". I think Neil has his hooks really deep into the Vulcans and I think he has autonomy. I think they're more dedicated to his vision (whatever the fuck that might be) than Dame. Hopefully we won't have to find out but if Dame does demand a trade and Neil isn't fired, that answers your question. In that case it would be obvious that Neil is more important to ownership than Dame and therefore if Dame wanted Neil fired, Neil would still be here.
     
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    Yeah, and what I’m saying is that you don’t do a trade if it’s gonna fuck you over. You wouldn’t meet Phillys price tag for Ben just because Dame is upset, now would you?
     
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    Well there’s the Simmons price tag as an example. Do you accept that trade?
     
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    That was a big help:blahblah:
     
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    I would meet their price tag if the hold us is picks... I would let the have the "win" if them winning meant they got an extra first rounder and swaps that they don't deserve.

    So yeah because Simmons is a gamble, CJ and maybe DJ plus a pick or two is probably a high but fair price but I would add on another pick and multiple swaps to make the deal happen. I'd let Morey get over on us because it would make us immediately much better (as it would for Philly) and Simmons has the potential to be a superstar. Also it sure doesn't hurt that it would renew Dame's dedication to the franchise. Draft picks are worth a lot but if we're still trying to win a championship with Dame, they really don't mean too much to us right now.
     

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