Science Is Neil trying to increase value or is he actually screwing this up?

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Is Neil playing mind games or is he actually a moron?

  1. He's playing mind games to increase value

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  2. He's a moron

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  1. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Dames only 31 with 4 years left with a new coach and a few months before season starts?
    I think Id give it another season. just me
     
  2. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Or Dame wanted C.J.

    Or Paul wanted C.J.

    Or he offered C.J. and teams didn't want him.

    Not saying you're wrong, I just don't know if you're right.
     
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  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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  4. SlyPokerCat

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    You've seen the Blazers win a title. I have not. I'd rather not waste another year where we have zero chance. At least try to build something through blowing it up or making a trade to make the roster better.
     
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  5. BonesJones

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    Trading Trent for Powell was a risk.

    I can get on board with criticizing Olshey. He's made a lot of mistakes. But stuff like "he's never taken a risk" or "he never trades his guys".

    If it's a "big enough risk" then I agree.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    It's free agency. We were not going to improve this team via free agency.
     
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    Right, I'm not passing judgment on our off season yet... Dame has inside information so he might have the ability to do that. I was just kind of playing around because to say that Neil is scrambling to save his job isn't accurate. He might start to soon but he hasn't done much of anything yet.
     
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  8. Tince

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    I get what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree with that theory. A PF who can only score and doesn't play defense or one who's a good defender, but offensive liability, probably doesn't make us significantly better.

    Olshey is trying to trade a guy he's paying like an all-star, but is a liability on one side of the court w/out being elite on the other side.
     
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    CJ’s defense is underrated. What’s his block rate for a guard?
     
  10. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's Neil. I'm right. Lol.
     
  11. GDiama

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    Is this for real? Block rate doesn't mean good D all the time. Especially for a guard it's the least significant stat
     
  12. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I know you don't know that for sure, you don't have enough access to. None of us do outside of one poster.
     
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    The worst part is he is using regular season stats to make his case while it has proven time and time again that those things mean nothing in playoffs when you are talking about a team like the Blazers. Our starting 5 which he thinks is one of the best lineups is not even top 10 out of 16 in playoffs. Two terrible defenders, one extremely undersized sf, one good role player and one C that doesn't have the fastest feet and cannot stay on the floor due to consistent foul trouble.
     
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    Following the 2016 signings, and 2017 draft - it's amazing this guy still has a job.

    Taking his moves as a whole - looking at the contracts he's handed out - I'm not kidding when I say Olshey should be investigated for collusion/kickbacks with the agents, in relation to the dollar amount vs talent on some of these contracts. (75M for Crabbe, 75M for turner, 10M for Leonard, 15M Ezeli, Nicholson 20M etc)

    Neil Olshey has hurt the Blazers organisation more than he has helped it, imo.
     
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    What?

    Brooklyn gave Crabbe that contract. They also gave Nicholson that contract. Half of the teams in the league gave out terrible contracts that summer. And Olshey should be investigated for collusion?! Hah!

    You guys crack me up.
     
  16. WillG

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    Olshey is the guy that chose to take those contracts on - terrible business.
    Then doubled down with terrible value contract extensions for Cj and Lillard (3 for 100M & 4 for 196M respectively)
    Moves that have and will hurt the Blazers moving forward.
     
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    It was just an example, as I had stated.
     
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    The logical fallacies in here crack me up.
     
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    Another thread made to more or less bash Neil, blah blah blah. This should be merged with the Fire Oshley thread. Nothing to see here
     
  20. Mediocre Man

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    Since Neil has had multiple fuck ups, we should be able to have multiple Neil fucked up threads
     
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