OT Is Nike appropriating Public Enemy for their basketball commercials?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    Reminds me of when Mercedes used that Janis Joplin song:

     
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    I don't get your objection. Clearly the song is criticizing Nike and now Nike gets to use it in a commercial. Either young Chuck D would be appalled or young Chuck D was just totally full of shit.
     
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    He says he likes nike in the song. I love this country. Does that mean I don't get to criticize it?

    I like Nike but wait a minute
    The neighborhood supports, so put some money in it
    All corporations owe, they gotta give up the dough
    To my town or else we gotta shut 'em down


    The first pair of Nikes I got were free. My sister worked for Nike later in life. Nike does all kinds of public outreach.

    Me thinks all of y'all doth protest to much.
     
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    Come on - that's a red herring. Nobody's denying he likes Nikes or saying that liking the product means you can't criticize the producer. The question is, is he allowing his song to be used because he wants $ or because his criticism of them no longer stands?
    And your last line would only apply if we had songs that were being used in ads.

    Tom Waits doesn't allow his songs to be used in commercials AT ALL, let alone by corporations that he's criticizing in the SAME SONG. I would've thought Chuck D would be the same. It's different if he's lost control of the song or if royalties go to all of the group and some of them really need the money, I guess.

    (Burger King used "I'll Melt With You" and it really pissed off at least one of the band who was a vegetarian but he got outvoted.)
     
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    He wasn't only criticizing Nike, he was criticizing all corporations. So should he not buy anything from any of those corporations or refuse money that those corporations have for him for whatever? I don't give a fuck what that other dude doesn't allow with his music. The red herring is saying that he's selling out because his music is being used. Just because you criticize something in the past doesn't mean that criticism still stands today.
     
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    I don't know what Chuck thinks about this Nike commercial but Chuck ain't stupid
     
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    It just looks bad offhand, that's all. I tried to find an article where Chuck talks about this commercial but I didn't find one.

    I can see both sides.
     
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    All the shit going on in this world and this looks bad? Come on y'all... This ain't even worth a thread.
     
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    Don't listen to the Uncle Tom, you right.
     
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    It's worth a thread cuz I love Public Enemy. I've been listening all day and now I'm listening to Sevendust (another band that should be way more famous)

    Anyway, it looks bad in a "wow, I wouldn't think he'd let them do that" kind of way.

    Not an "oh my God it's the end of the world" kind of way. Know how I know it ain't that bad?

    Rasta posted his own opinions instead of Hollywood tweets. :)
     
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    Many groups and artists sell or lease the rights to their songs to a 3rd party. When Michael Jackson held the rights to the Beatles catalog he licensed some of their songs to companies that they Beatles were not pleased with. Just because Nike is using a PE song doesn't mean Chuck D agreed to it.
     
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    He was retweeting positive reactions to the commercial on his twitter account.
     
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    FlavorFlav is suing him.
     
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    Fair enough. I love the commercial. It's well done.

    This is also the only place on the internet I see anyone saying this. Leave it to @EL PRESIDENTE.
     
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    Its because I'm fucking woke.
     
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