<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 18 2006, 02:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't mean to be fnny, but I guarantee that I have read the bible more than you. I don't believe in god but I have morals that I live my life by, but I choose them myself I don't let other people tell me what to believe in.If people were not told when they are children (by parents etc) that god exists, do you honestly think that people would be religious. There might be some, but a very small amount.</div>You probably have... I'm not christian. I'm muslim, and the story in the original Quran has never been changed, unlike the bible and the torah.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ May 18 2006, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You probably have... I'm not christian. I'm muslim, and the story in the original Quran has never been changed, unlike the bible and the torah.</div>good for you, but Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same god. In fact Christians and Jews have been around alot longer than Islam has so why should your faith be any more 'real' than theirs?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>good for you, but Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in the same god. In fact Christians and Jews have been around alot longer than Islam has so why should your faith be any more 'real' than theirs?</div>1-Same God-Not Really (trinity, monotheism, and descriptions make them different)2-"Christians and Jews have been around alot longer so why should their faith be more real than any others"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LBJ @ May 18 2006, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1-Same God-Not Really (trinity, monotheism, and descriptions make them different)2-"Christians and Jews have been around alot longer so why should their faith be more real than any others"</div>well not sure what you were taught but they do all worship the same god, its just a different way of following him is all. I am not Christian, Mulsim or Jewish, but I was pointing out to Airblaze that the Quran was written after the old and new testaments. Its just funny to me how all religions think they are the right one. Its one of the reasons that I know there isn't a 'proper' one to follow.
I know that, but the Bible and the Torah were rewritten, and the only reason God made Islam because after Moses died, and Ibraham died, Jews and Chrsitians forget about it, so he sent out Muhammad (PBUH) to preach Islam which is exactly like the original Christianity and Judasim, except with a few modifications. im not saying my religon is more REAL, i never did and youre pretty gay if you try and change what i said. but, im just saying, as long as you do whatever your religon tells you to do, its fine. maybe people can be so caught up in their religon that they wouldnt believe in others. thats okay, because each religon believes in god (well most do) so if you believe in him, im sure god will be okay with it.
They didnt forget, but in the BC's, in the middle east there was a lot of crime and people forgot what adam and ibraham and moses and jesus taught.
fair enough, but I believe that if people follow a religion they should follow everything about it. In alot of the 'main' religions of the world women don't have as many rights as men, they are told to do whatever their husband asks of them, this is just plain wrong to me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 18 2006, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>fair enough, but I believe that if people follow a religion they should follow everything about it. In alot of the 'main' religions of the world women don't have as many rights as men, they are told to do whatever their husband asks of them, this is just plain wrong to me.</div>Not in Christianity.
Nobody was dissing Christianity JB. Milgod some religions dont say they are the best (maybe that can be interpreted though) and they say people should follow their own religions to the best of their ability. The religion might give people equality and justice but the political system and culture might take that away or use religion to do evil like take over land and force conversion. Its just how things are, but not how they should be. Fun Facts-(inthewest)Women have a better education then men but earn less money. They provide life and get less support(child supportetc) then doctors(new tech) who save lives. If a memberof a religious group was beaten ppl would be pissed off. yet women arebeaten all the time in their own homes. etc etc.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 19 2006, 03:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not in Christianity.</div>then I suggest you read the bible, it says a number of time in different passages that men are the head of the family and women should do as they say.I'm not trying to knock you for being religious, but I do think you should just realise some of the things the bible says.
I think that praying isn't a waste of time if you really believe in the kind of stuff. But it is if you like pray for something like your team winning the championship or something like that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 19 2006, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then I suggest you read the bible, it says a number of time in different passages that men are the head of the family and women should do as they say.I'm not trying to knock you for being religious, but I do think you should just realise some of the things the bible says.</div>Yeah who cares about that. What are you some guy represting womens' rights? or are you just a girl? Im not saying i dont care but no offense in a lot of threads you seem like a woman to me. And times have changed, thats in all relgions, but no one follows EVERYTHING in their religon, only extremists do. And also, it says that women should do what men tell them to do in the bible, right? it does in the quran, and the torah also, but all people say are that muslim extremists are bad. so are christian extremists and jewish extremists. same sh*t
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 19 2006, 02:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then I suggest you read the bible, it says a number of time in different passages that men are the head of the family and women should do as they say.I'm not trying to knock you for being religious, but I do think you should just realise some of the things the bible says.</div>You're misinterpreting it, that's not what it says. It says that the man is responsible for his family and it his job to be the head of the family and basically keep everything under control, but that in no way demeans women or says that the wife should do whatever her husband tells her too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 20 2006, 04:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're misinterpreting it, that's not what it says. It says that the man is responsible for his family and it his job to be the head of the family and basically keep everything under control, but that in no way demeans women or says that the wife should do whatever her husband tells her too.</div>well you are sugar-coating it, as it says worse than that. But even what you just said is WRONG. Why can't the women be jointly responsible for things with her husband?I'm not a woman as AirBlaze seems to think, i'm just somebody who doesn't trust religion and can't see why many people would. How can you justify killing in the name of your religion, most wars throughout history have been done 'in gods name'.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Milgod @ May 20 2006, 03:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well you are sugar-coating it, as it says worse than that. But even what you just said is WRONG. Why can't the women be jointly responsible for things with her husband?I'm not a woman as AirBlaze seems to think, i'm just somebody who doesn't trust religion and can't see why many people would. How can you justify killing in the name of your religion, most wars throughout history have been done 'in gods name'.</div>Traditionally the man is the head of the household in basically every culture, that's just giving him responsibility and not taking anything away from women.Who kills in the name of Christianity?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 20 2006, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Traditionally the man is the head of the household in basically every culture, that's just giving him responsibility and not taking anything away from women.Who kills in the name of Christianity?</div>lets start with the Crusades.
That was a long time ago when the world wasn't very civilized, there's no radical Christians terrorists these days.
And don't blame this sh*t on Muslims either, those dudes are crazy extremists in Iraq, most muslims aren't like that. No one is like that. Like I said, times have changed. It says men are the head of the family. so? Men are the stronger, more dominant species. So what's wrong with taking care of the family? what woman actually wants to be the protector? i don't get your complaint here Milgod.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ May 19 2006, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not in Christianity.</div> Like how women aren't allowed to talk in church unless spoken to by a man first...etc..
