Keon value is clearly less than 0 since he has a guaranteed contract and Phoenix is cutting him. Blazers wanted Phoenix to eat that cost to give them tax/roster room.
If we trade Brogdon + 2 2nds to PHI, we could get something back like filler + the ‘28 unprotected 1st (we re-route Harden to the Clips). So if the total return was DA TimeLord Camara ‘24 GSW 1-4 protected 1st ‘28 LAC 1st, ‘28 POR/MIL swap ‘29 BOS 1st, ‘29 MIL 1st ‘30 POR/MIL swap Filler I would say that’s a haul, as much as I could expect. 4 1sts (3 unprotected) and 2 unprotected swaps would make me as happy as I can be as a Blazers fan the last few years. Let’s just take our time on TimeLord, he has an easily moveable contract for the next 3 years. Is DA and TimeLord on the level of Cam or Bridges? No. But KD is significantly better than Dame. The end result of the Brogdon deal is still ongoing. Neither of the Miami young guys were intriguing enough for me to consider them as an asset over a 1st. I don’t think either will end up with a better career than Grant, and if the end goal is improvement at a position via trade or draft, I’d take a 1st over Jaquez or Jovic. But if the Blazers could get a JSJ or Eason from the Rockets, then that’d be great.
Luka probably wouldn’t be the player, but I think you’re in the ballpark of the type of star he could get. Maybe Tatum if he doesn’t think he can win it in Boston. The big one would be Scottie, still. If he gets unhappy with the Raptors, we would have the means to compete with the Jazz, Rockets, Thunder, and Nets for him. Outside of that, we don’t know the guys who will end up as stars in 2026 and beyond.
Bobby Marks insisted that there wasn’t a deal out there better than what Miami offered, so obviously what we got can’t be any good.
What Utah got for Rudy Gobert is a “haul”, so no, I wouldn’t consider this a “haul”. I would say it’s better than anticipated on my end though; so I have to give Joe credit for that with a few caveats. 1) I wasn’t super high on post-injury Nurk (the player). I’m also not super high on Ayton, especially at his salary. So, we will have to see how the cookie crumbles here. 2) I was pretty much over “Nas” because of his injury concerns. Robert Williams is essentially the same thing. Can’t stay healthy. HOWEVER, Robert Williams has proven when healthy, he can actually impact a game. Nas didn’t ever show me that on a significant level. 3) I’m not banking on the 24 GSW pick or 2029 BOS pick being worth very much. A lot will be dictated by the MIL’s future.
He's on ESPN, kind of a cap trade machine guru. Was assistant GM for the Nets when they made a lot of stupid moves a decade ago.
Question on the GSW top 4 protected? Let's say GS plays lousy like they did with all the injuries 4 years ago or so. They slide in at 4. Do we get another 1st from Boston somewhere down the road?
No longer involves Boston. In your scenario the pick becomes GS 2025 pick top1 protected. If GS then got #1 in 2025 it becomes GS unprotected pick in 2026. They'd have to win a top4 spot in the lottery. It used to be only 3 spots but now they pick top4.
If you ever have questions about picks and who owes who what and what the conditions are on those picks this is the place to look: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
