I'm sure your cat considers whether it's safe for her to climb trees or whatever. Because if she doesn't make that jump, she's toast. And she knows it. Because of fear of heights. I'm not talking about acrophobia.
You're referring to subjective rights endowed by governments. Again, by can't you mean shouldn't. Governments can and historically have certainly prevented subjects from pursuing happiness if/when they felt justified in doing so. Government parsing of rights is subjectively value-based. Once again you mean abilities, not rights.
I'm referring to objective rights and demonstrating how they apply to all regardless of governments attempts to endow or not. I mean the monarchy CAN'T. Our government with all the $trillions (and spending that year after year) can't prevent people from doing heroin. You think I mean abilities when I mean rights.
You're obviously using the word "right" semantically to mean ability, NOT entitlement as was meant in the DoI. This is such a simple thing I feel like you're just yanking my chain here.
Atheists are generally just intolerant of bad arguments for theism, not of theists. I'd be surprised if any atheist in this forum gives a fuck that it says IGWT on our money.
I think you are quibbling over semantics. They are rights because the government can, in theory restrict them but never granted them in the first place. You would have limited liberty if in prison in solitary confinement, for example. What the founders did was state the obvious. Their invention was government that respected these innate rights.
We have the "right" to basic biology, desires and instincts, for as long as the government allows us to live--being alive is a right we do not innately have, since anyone (government or private enterprise murderer) can take it away. That's an interesting use of the word "right," but basic biology, desires and instincts are tough to restrict, I agree. We have the right to our heart beating (while alive)! We have the right to feel pain when we are stabbed (while alive). So many rights.
The government doesn't treat all human abilities as rights. It parses them using value judgments, restricting some and allowing others. Their invention was a government that is directed by the will of the people. The will of the people is still a (collective) subjective value judgment.
Hence the endowed by our creator with inalienable rights parts. Creator not being "god" but "nature."
Acrophobia is fear of heights. That's not the same a reasonable caution. Are we on different pages (again), Denny? Climbing seems to be a pretty strong instinct in cats; they feel safe in high places.
Yes, different pages. Fear of heights I'm talking about is not psychological. Even people who don't have acrophobia are scared to walk a tightrope across the grand canyon without a net.
I walk steel beams all the time and am not scared at all. I like to stand on the edge of cliffs with my toes hanging over. I used to like to drive fast and lose control of the car a little bit around corners on highway 1 south of Mendocino, certain death. Makes my balls tingle.
