Its only spring training right?

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  1. blgridesagain

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    By the way fellas, I also happen to think Prado is a good player but I just hope you aren't/weren't expecting him to continue his pace of 133 ABs he had with the Yanks last year because in case you weren't counting, that would give him about 28 HRs and a .316 BA over a full season (532 ABs?).
    But I'm sure this just isn't a case of being obsesssed with finding fault with Cashman...
    ......nah, of course not.

    Headley had 191 ABs for the Yanks, batted .262 compared with his .265 career avg,
    Has a career .347 OBP, his Yankee ops was 12 pts higher than his career .756 and his slg% was 11 pts higher than his career number.....and at last check, his career OPS is over .800 playing away from his former SD ballpark. No, he's not going to be confused with Mike Schmidt but he'll provide about 9-13 HRS and it could/SHOULD go UP playing his home games at Yankee Stadium......last but not least, he is A very goood established defensive 3b.
    Let it go guys....let it go....if the man stays healthy and we can say that about ANY player including a good young pitcher named Stroman for Toronto, I think the Yanks could very well have a good 3b approaching his last BEST years....4 yr deal sounds about right.

    2b will take care of itself for the Yanks as they have at least one if not two (Refsnyder,Pirela(?)) good young players/hitters vying for the spot and I'f not, they will see action sometime this season and if you think Drew is really a "167 hitter".....than the youngsters show up sooner.....and the Yanks also get younger in the process.

    Umm, Drew is signed for ONE year, not 3 or 4....Yanks could/ would easily release him later in the season......are "we" paying attention, or not?
     
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  2. Rick2583

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    You were right Ron.
     
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    How many 89mph 3-1 FB out over the plate is he gonna see in a full season? Cervelli crushed those too.
     
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    And I doubt we'll actually give the kids a chance... Banging my head here
     
  5. yankeesince59

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    ...yup...nailed it, didn't I?

    ...love the inane reference to ARod running ability ("you do need legs to run to 2nd base")... ARod's bloop double was a ground rule double which had barely got over the 1Bman's head, and barely landed fair, and had side spin on it and bounced into the seats....speed was not required...lmao.

    ...also love how he claims Prado's stats with the Yanx last year should not perceived to be an indicator of what he may be able to do with the Marlins this year, but somehow Headley's small sample size from last year is used an indicator of what he could/should do this year....how's that work?

    ..."statistical gymnastics"...lol.
     
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  6. blgridesagain

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    How many 89mph 3-1 FB fastballs out over the plate did we see last year which were popped up to shallow CF?
    You remember don't you? 2014, The year which was one of the more embarrassing in Yankee team batting history. lol
     
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    Back to your old imaginary word games again huh? Talk about gymnastics....lmao.
    I never mentioned what Prado may or may not do with the MARLINS.
    I merely stated his ACTUAL numbers (133 abs) as a Yankee...7 HRs .316 BA and raised the question if some of you expected him to continue that pace which would be estimated according to simple math (about 532abs) over the course of a full season would give him 28 HRs with a .316 BA.......is THAT what you were expecting from him if he stayed a Yankee (blame Cashman lol) ? Here are a couple of more FACTS, he's never hit more than 15 HRs in a season and he needed 599abs to do it....next highest was 14 HRs with 609 abs.

    Headley on the other hand showed a more realistic consistent performance compared with his career numbers with some modest decent improvement amoung a couple of his other numbers and I think he's the better 3b. I think IMO he'll give the Yanks just what they expect, .260-.265 BA, 340-.350 OBP, mid-high 700 OPS, good possibility of raising his HR totals playing his home games in a good hitters park (especially from the left side).

    As I also said, I think 2b will take care of itself with possibly one of the Yankees' young players (Refsnyder,Pirela) taking the position if Drew doesn't pan out......and I know Drew is a "question mark" but you even said maybe he was hurt last year by holding out and missing ST and could do better- if not, the Yanks will probably use him as a backup or possibly release him later in the season when he'll be owed maybe 2-2.5 mil.

    We'll see how Headley does as the Yankee 3b and you can keep us posted on Prado's Marlins' career.

    Stop acting like a crybaby. Maybe you need to call in your re-enforcements. lol
     
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    ...I doubt tote knows for sure...hey, why not be a sport and go back and count them for us ?
     
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    :check:NTM-59 has His own Personal Stalker too.....who obviously bought a cheap calculator.....but His stalker still has NO Common Sense, and thinks such comes in the form of coin change (cents).......


    :blahblah: :confused: :blahblah: :dunno:

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    still: :jugle:

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  13. Rick2583

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    Ron & blg were having this debate yesterday about how A-Rod has yet to a ball hard this spring. That was just before he hit his 1st HR. And he predicted that BLG would take full opportunity with basically an "I TOLD YOU SO". and he did.
     
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    Oh no, not quite.....I brought up his 4-9 ST numbers (posted by '59) which did NOT include his HR vs Boston. And yes, I DID acknowledge one of those "hits" was a bloop double, and I WAS corrected as it was a grounds rule double which didn't require him to run hard to 2b....so if you want to say he was really 3-9 at that point (exclude the bloop double lol) the point was and remains, although it is still early ST but he has NOT looked as if he's been - so far- over matched....has just two Ks so far.
    Same with Headley 4-12,(same post), I was just wondering why he AND Arod were included amoung the group of "regulars" who have been struggling up to that point according to the same ('59 post).

    As for me saying "I told you so" regarding Arod's first ST HR, I was replying to Tote's downplaying it because it was an easy 89mph down the middle fastball.....and maybe, perhaps, YOU get the feeling if Arod had struck out on the same pitch some would be quicker to begin THEY'RE own "I told you so" about Arod being overmatched showing how he can't generate any power and will be lucky to make it out of ST.

    Look, I'm well aware - and I have already said in other posts - I realize and understand why and how the large majority feel as if his body won't hold up and I am NOT expecting to see a whole lot from him....but I happen think the year's lay off could benefit his body and if he does make it onto the team he certainly is going to get plenty of off days to try and keep his wheels healthy and fresh....and If so, I think HE WILL help improve production from the 2015 Yankee DH position which would be significant when we take a look back at last year's horrendous production from the DH spot.

    So please, try not to confuse and mix up my reply posts to fit your profile of me.
     
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    (Post 25)
    "love the inane reference to ARod running ability ("you do need legs to run to 2nd base")... ARod's bloop double was a ground rule double which had barely got over the 1Bman's head, and barely landed fair, and had side spin on it and bounced into the seats....speed was not required...lmao.

    ...also love how he claims Prado's stats with the Yanx last year should not perceived to be an indicator of what he may be able to do with the Marlins this year, but somehow Headley's small sample size from last year is used an indicator of what he could/should do this year....how's that work?",.

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    Here's how "it works"-
    #1- is YOUR point Arod is and will be unable to run two bases at a time? yes or no?
    Even If he's only able to run as fast (or slow) as Jorge Posada with a possible slight painfree gimp, I don't believe it'll be the deference maker if he's still capable of swinging the bat and contributing in a DH role. Get it in your head and get real.....
    and....do you think he'll be the only MLB DH with (maybe) below avg speed?
    Once again you've made a mountain out of an ant hill,...or, crying over spilled milk.

    #2- Once again, I never mentioned what Prado may or may not do with the Marlins.....YOU DID. Go back and read again this time maybe use a magnifying glass.

    #3 When I mentioned Prado's potential full season numbers based on last year's 133 Yankee ABs I was referring to him being retained as a YANKEE for THIS season which seems to be one of the bigger reasons for this obsessive attack on Cashman.

    #4- Which performance from Prado and Headley last year with the Yankees was more realistic and less flukey, Prado's or Headleys?

    THAT'S how it works for ME.
     
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    Honestly now, as if your life depended on a honest answer. Do you have to interject sarcasm into every thread/post?

    Or do you actually have the Personality type, (Meyers-Briggs or Kiersey testing, results?), which is only somewhat happy, or at ease, if you have someone or thing to complain about or attack? :dry:

    Not trying to anger you, just looking for the truth, if it will so avail itself.....:cowboy: :bwpopcorn:
     
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    Oh come on, you know that was a pitching machine FB. He's been hitting those at his estate the pastc2 years.
     
  18. yankeesince59

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    ....^^^
     
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    I guess you must be referring to the posters who have nothing but prejudiced snide negative remarks regarding Cashman and Arod's current ON FIELD ST PERFORMANCE.

    The team won 84 games last year missed a WC spot by 4(?) games with a terrible offense due to Beltran coming down with elbow issue after having a very good season the previous year, Tex having a lousy year partly due -imo- to his wrist not fully healed, Jeter having a mediocre year (to put it mildly),not mention his poor defensive range... .....he had 24 extra base hits for the year, 24!
    The DH spot was horrible ...and yet they were still in the post season race by September.....and this is Cashman's fault? What were they supposed to do, release Jeter in his farewell season?

    Think about it.
     
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    Cashman is an asshole & A-Roid is a piece of shit. So where's the problem?
     

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