Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jkidd51524 @ Nov 18 2006, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rod Thron has gone after Garnett every off-season for the last 5 years at minimum. If hes on the trade block, I cant see why he wouldnt go after him now. Kidd + Garnett = Title.</div>Jefferson, Kristic, Boone, and a future first?
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett For one Wolves wont get alot for Kg. No superstar player that is.. They will get like one allstar and role players..Maybe if they traded KG 2years ago they could of got an allstarWith the lakers ofcourse the main player will be odomAnd with bulls... You can do alot... Gordon Deng Pj Sweets Knicks pick noc Tyurs... Im not sayin all of them.. But those are players that will be in the deal.. two of them . Being they have alot of gaurd I dont think gordon will be in it... I would see deng Pj t.thomas knicks pick...I wont hate to see deng go... But if we can get a lineup ofKirkBenNocKgBenWOO
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He stayed loyal to them when in reality, He should have been gone awhile ago.</div>Eh, he signed the contract, now he has to live with it. I don't really care if he's in a bad situation and not winning a championship. He's not the only one. As for the topic at hand, it would benefit the Wolves to trade him and start rebuilding. Their obviously not doing anything with him. But it's kind of a double edged sword. Rebuilding means 2-3 years of all time low basketball, fan adjustment and also not getting fair value in a KG trade. Keeping KG, their stuck in mediocrity till the day he leaves and then are left to squander and replace him. With that said, Wolves are better off starting the rebuilding stage quicker and actually getting some pieces via Garnett.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LightsOut @ Nov 18 2006, 01:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jefferson, Kristic, Boone, and a future first?</div>That actually isnt that bad of a trade at all. I would consider doing that if I was minny. But the more that I look at it, I dont know if NJ would want to trade Boone and Kristic even if they would be getting a quality player such as KG in return.Back to topic: KG definitely has to go. With the team he has right now, they arent getting in to the playoffs. They are all selfish players and dont know their roles on the team. I really want to see him get a ring, so he needs to go to a close to title contender, or a title contender obviously.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett He should go to the Suns! That would make me happy, which is all the more reason that he should come to AZ!
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Nov 18 2006, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kidd had excellent casts in his prime and couldn't execute 2 seasons in a row. He blew his chance.And Rod Thorn is a weasel. All I'll ever remember him for is calling the Atlanta Hawks and begging them not to follow through on the morning of the day Rasheed Wallace was traded to Detroit.</div>Dude you have no idea what your talking about. This is one of Kidd's best seasons in a while, and Rod Thorn is one of the best GM's out there. Who drafted MJ? O yeah.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LightsOut @ Nov 18 2006, 12:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jefferson, Kristic, Boone, and a future first?</div>I know we would have to give up Jefferson, but I wouldnt trade Boone and Kristic, give them Collins instead of Boone. Besides that I could see the trade going down.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (STAT @ Nov 17 2006, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He should go to the Suns! That would make me happy, which is all the more reason that he should come to AZ!</div>It would take a lot. Marion, Atlanta pick, James Jones and probably another pick, either ours or Cleveland's but I'd do it for sure. I love Marion but I'd be a lot more comfortable with KG in the playoffs and he wouldn't shoot so many 3's and miss, badly.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I really want to see him get a ring, so he needs to go to a close to title contender, or a title contender obviously.</div> I hope you mean title contender as in Spurs and no one else. Why would you root for a guy against your own team getting a chip? If KG is not a Mav, I could care less if he doesn't win a ring.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jkidd51524 @ Nov 18 2006, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude you have no idea what your talking about. This is one of Kidd's best seasons in a while, and Rod Thorn is one of the best GM's out there. Who drafted MJ? O yeah.</div>I have no idea what I'm talking about? It's barely into the NBA season. Let me know about Kidd in March.And as far as Thorn, all I said about him was he begged ATL not to send Sheed to Detroit, which you can't dispute because it happened.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Nov 18 2006, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It would take a lot. Marion, Atlanta pick, James Jones and probably another pick, either ours or Cleveland's but I'd do it for sure. I love Marion but I'd be a lot more comfortable with KG in the playoffs and he wouldn't shoot so many 3's and miss, badly.</div>Yeah, I would do it too. But who knows how that would all effect the team's chemistry. It would break up the Big 3...but add in a much better player at the same time, one who wants to win badly and would greatly benefit our team.But it's all about the chemistry here...and who knows how it would effect Amare's return?
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett Pacers Give:O'nealJacksonTinsleyTimberwolves give:GarnettPacers lineup:GarnettHarringtonGrangerDanielsArmstrong/Greene/SarunasTimberwolves Lineup:BlountJODavisJacksonTinsley6 - FoyeI like it alot!Please make it happen, Walsh and Bird!!!! :rock: :worthy: :winkglasses: :dribble: :beerchug: :biggrin:
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 18 2006, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pacers Give:O'nealJacksonTinsleyTimberwolves give:GarnettPacers lineup:GarnettHarringtonGrangerDanielsArmstrong/Greene/SarunasTimberwolves Lineup:BlountJODavisJacksonTinsley6 - FoyeI like it alot!Please make it happen, Walsh and Bird!!!! :rock: :worthy: :winkglasses: :dribble: :beerchug: :biggrin:</div>why would you even want to do that as a Pacers fan? JO is a great player when healthy, Jackson is a great role player who can off for 30 points any given night, and Tinsley isnt a bad PG either. He has been injured as of the last couple years, but when healthy, he fills up the stat sheets. Also, this wouldnt give KG a chance at a ring so this would be somewhat uneffective...
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 18 2006, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why would you even want to do that as a Pacers fan? JO is a great player when healthy, Jackson is a great role player who can off for 30 points any given night, and Tinsley isnt a bad PG either. He has been injured as of the last couple years, but when healthy, he fills up the stat sheets. Also, this wouldnt give KG a chance at a ring so this would be somewhat uneffective...</div> :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: The most realistic thing you said is JO is a great player when healthy. :HAHAHA: Jackson going for 30? :HAHAHA: He has enough trouble going for 20 on 10 of 30 shooting. :HAHAHA: Tinsley not a bad PG? :HAHAHA: Well maybe, when compared to Yuta Tabuse. :HAHAHA: He throws so many turnovers, and wants to post everyone up.I'd do this trade in 0.0000000000000000000000001 seconds
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 18 2006, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why would you even want to do that as a Pacers fan? JO is a great player when healthy, Jackson is a great role player who can off for 30 points any given night, and Tinsley isnt a bad PG either. He has been injured as of the last couple years, but when healthy, he fills up the stat sheets. Also, this wouldnt give KG a chance at a ring so this would be somewhat uneffective...</div>Pacers fans really seem to hate Jackson and want him gone so I don't think that's a bad trade for them. Especially since JO and "healthy" don't go together well.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 18 2006, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: :HAHAHA: The most realistic thing you said is JO is a great player when healthy. :HAHAHA: Jackson going for 30? :HAHAHA: He has enough trouble going for 20 on 10 of 30 shooting. :HAHAHA: Tinsley not a bad PG? :HAHAHA: Well maybe, when compared to Yuta Tabuse. :HAHAHA: He throws so many turnovers, and wants to post everyone up.I'd do this trade in 0.0000000000000000000000001 seconds</div>Do you remember when Jermaine O'neal was injured last season, and when Jackson had to step it up as the main scorer, how well he did? He had several games where he scored over 25 points. Also, if you read close enough, I said that he is capable of having games where he can score 30 points on any given night. Now does that mean that he will get 30 points a game let alone 20? no it doesn't....but he has the skillset and the shooting ability to do so whenever he is on, or on "any given night". As for Tinsley, if you have been a pacers fan for more than 2 years, you would know that before he became injured, he was a good PG. That is why I said, "WHEN HEALTHY", he can fill up the stat sheets. Is he 100 percent healthy right now?? NO....will he ever be 100 percent healthy? I have no clue....but if he does get back to full health, he is a good pg. 2 years ago, he was averaging 16 PPG, 6 APG, 4 RPG, and 2 SPG...and guess what? He was 100 percent healthy then.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 18 2006, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you remember when Jermaine O'neal was injured last season, and when Jackson had to step it up as the main scorer, how well he did? He had several games where he scored over 25 points. Also, if you read close enough, I said that he is capable of having games where he can score 30 points on any given night. Now does that mean that he will get 30 points a game let alone 20? no it doesn't....but he has the skillset and the shooting ability to do so whenever he is on, or on "any given night". As for Tinsley, if you have been a pacers fan for more than 2 years, you would know that before he became injured, he was a good PG. That is why I said, "WHEN HEALTHY", he can fill up the stat sheets. Is he 100 percent healthy right now?? NO....will he ever be 100 percent healthy? I have no clue....but if he does get back to full health, he is a good pg. 2 years ago, he was averaging 16 PPG, 6 APG, 4 RPG, and 2 SPG...and guess what? He was 100 percent healthy then.</div> :wtf1: the only way jackson can get 30 is if he shoots 40 shotshe never scored 30 on a good shooting nighttinsley 2 years ago?If you lived in Indy you'd understand. Nobody has ever see anything good out of Tinsley since he played in Memphis.Who cares about the stats?If you watch the stinkin games you'll see - he throws a turnover on the next play after he gets an assist. If his man scores, he posts him up on the other end. Seriously, I wish the dude would go back to Rucker Park, or to Minnesota.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 18 2006, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pacers Give:O'nealJacksonTinsleyTimberwolves give:GarnettPacers lineup:GarnettHarringtonGrangerDanielsArmstrong/Greene/SarunasTimberwolves Lineup:BlountJODavisJacksonTinsley6 - FoyeI like it alot!Please make it happen, Walsh and Bird!!!! :rock: :worthy: :winkglasses: :dribble: :beerchug: :biggrin:</div>that's actually a horrible move for the pacers. JO is already at KG's level, so why give minny two other proven STARTERS?
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Nov 18 2006, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:wtf1: the only way jackson can get 30 is if he shoots 40 shotshe never scored 30 on a good shooting nighttinsley 2 years ago?If you lived in Indy you'd understand. Nobody has ever see anything good out of Tinsley since he played in Memphis.Who cares about the stats?If you watch the stinkin games you'll see - he throws a turnover on the next play after he gets an assist. If his man scores, he posts him up on the other end. Seriously, I wish the dude would go back to Rucker Park, or to Minnesota.</div>Stephen Jackson scored over 16 a game last year and over 18 the 2 seasons before, and you are saying that there is no way he can score 30 if he has a good game. So he has started off slow this season...he is not going to continue to play this bad. It would be too dramatic of a dropoff from the last few seasons for that to happen. As for Tinsley, I dont need to watch a whole lot of games to know how he plays. Im not saying he is doing well this season, but two years ago when I did see him play a decent amount, he did not play bad what so ever. For every turnover he had, he had at least 2-3 assists which isnt an awful ratio for a PG. Its not great but its not bad by any means. When you have the ball in your hands as much as PG's do, you are bound to have turnovers. Did you ever think that he posts up because he has the size advantage on the opposing PG. He is a very strong PG...
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett Look guys, KG is much better than JO.On a good night here's what they'll get youJO: 22 points 10 rebounds 2 assists 3 blocks 1 stealKG: 22 points 13 rebounds 5 assists 2 blocks 2 stealsThe stats don't tell the whole story, but it's obvious KG is better.Add in that we haveF - HarringtonSF - GrangerSG - DanielsPG - Armstrong/Sarunas/GreeneWe'd be greatSo would Minnesota:C - BlountPF -JOSF - DavisSG - JacksonPG - Tinsley6 - FoyeJackson is not a great shooter, and has an attitude/off-court problemHe'd probably flourish in a new start (in Minnesota)Tinsley can do whatever he wants to. He will have the high-flying Davis. The "shooter" Steven Jackson. The scorer JO. The role player Blount. And the do-it-all-energy guy Foye.In Indy Garnett would flourish with a great sidekick post player (Harrington), three all-around/athletic/versatile players (Granger and Daniels and Marshall), a couple of shooters/role players/leaders (Armstrong and Sarunas), and a point guard of the future (Orien Greene).This trade would be perfect for both teams. It would be a win-win situation.
Re: It's time to trade Kevin Garnett No way they trade KG whos 30 for an other 30 year old smaller PF whos always hurt. and they have to many pg and sg already
