"It's Unpatriotic"

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  1. mobes23

    mobes23 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I don't like the debt run up during any administration -- no doubt about it. That said, I think you're oversimplifying things a lot. As has been said (like maybe a hundred or so times?), Obama was sworn in during the worst economic times since the depression. When tax revenues go down, it's pretty much a given that the debt will go up because government spending historically does not slide up/down to match. Again, if the debt is such a big deal, why weren't you squawking when Bush ran up big debt in a strong economy. Surely you must have had a clue that big deficits in a strong economy would lead to even bigger deficits in a down economy? Obama inherited two wars that also impact the budget significantly. Blah blah blah.

    We can both go on and on forever about the past and whine like little school girls, solutions would be a much better use of everyone's energy. Start cutting entitlements, specific ideas about restructuring the tax system (as I've said before, does anyone think it's so perfect that it shouldn't be touched?), etc. I'd love to start hearing more about solutions that take the concerns of both parties and attempt to find middle ground that puts us all in a better place.

    Lol -- or maybe we should ask admins to merge every single last budget thread, which would reduce the number of of OT Forum threads by 30-40%.
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It was the worst economic times since the S&L bailouts.

    Never let a good crisis go to waste! Politics of fear! We have nothing to offer but fear itself. &c
     
  3. mobes23

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    We can debate which crisis was bigger all day long, but our schlong sizes won't increase an inch. We can also talk about utilizing fear as a presidential tactic all day long (obviously, Bush was no slouch on that front.) If it doesn't increase dicksize or decrease the deficit, I don't want to hear about it.

    Lol -- just trying to stick to the important stuff. Breast size too -- I'm willing to listen to novel methods of accomplishing that. On women. Not men.
     
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    Yeah, bush played the fear card, but 3000 people were killed and politicians of both parties took advantage.

    An excerpt of Cheney's new book that I saw makes the claim, no, repeats the claim that top democrats were not only informed of interrogation and spying techniques, they urged that we do more and keep the knowledge of those programs from the rest of congress.

    And while people cry hypocrisy over silence during deficits and alarm over obama's, he's raised civil liberties violations to new heights. See the TSA, for one, and the indescriminant summary execution of suspected terrorists from drones and in a nation that's supposed to be an ally. Or Gitmo is still open, but the silence from it's critics is deafening.

    Fwiw, I was posting in the bush years about how he and republicans increased spending across the board... To unreasonable levels for the nation's income.
     

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