Notice It's Your Move Olshey! Your Job "Should" Be on The LINE!

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    thanks HJ, that makes sense


    yeah, I went back tp their Blazer page and finally tracked all the way down. They have the same number there as BBInsiders
     
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    I wonder how the Kings would respond to a trade of a 2nd round pick for Whiteside using the Bazemore TPE?
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Lmao so he shouldnt have signed anyone?
     
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    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Either this is a joke and it's flown right over my head or I'm completely lost and i have no idea what you mean here?
    Olshey is paid not only to know the rules but he also has people working for him that are paid to know the rules? So should he have known the rules when he built the roster?
     
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    Scalma Well-Known Member

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    Has Olshey signed anyone LOL jk
     
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    Here is an example of the kind of young guy I think we should take a flyer on:
    "Donta Hall’s main strength lies in his ability to be a defensive anchor in the paint. He is a talented shot-blocker who is very mobile and can cover a lot of ground quickly on the defensive end. He blossomed into an elite defender his last couple of years at Alabama when he was named to the SEC All-Defensive team as a junior and senior.

    He averaged 1.7 blocks per game throughout his four-year college career, and that skill has translated over to the pro level. Through 30 games this season with Grand Rapids, he’s averaging 1.4 blocks per game. It’s his ability to do everything else that he believes is his main strength. It’s what will get him looks from NBA teams.

    Hall’s strength as a rebounder has also translated to the pro game. He suited up with the Pistons summer league team in Las Vegas, his first experience against pro players. His defensive energy was on display with 2.2 blocks per game, but he averaged nearly as many rebounds (5.4) as points (6.0).

    He’s started in all but one game for the Drive this season, and he’s pulling down 10.2 rebounds per game, 4.0 on the offensive end. Although he wasn’t known as being a scorer, he is a capable and efficient one if need be. He’s averaging 15.1 points per game on 65.2 percent shooting from the field by being able to secure second shot opportunities and finishing strong at the rim."https://www.ridiculousupside.com/2020/2/6/21126678/donta-hall-making-his-mark-defensively
     
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    I mean; aren't our scouts constantly watching guys, keeping track of them, evaluating them. Shouldn't they be able to instantly tell Olshey who they rate highest for any particular need? Why is this taking so long when we have spots open?
     
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    It's a good idea to keep a roster spot open - for unbalanced trades, or to sign a surprising FA, or to get someone who fills a need given an injury.
     
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    doesn’t really apply to two way spots though. Why isn’t that filled?
     
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    idk, they don't count against the cap, do they?
     
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    nah. Like really the only reason I can come up with is they don’t wanna add another body to the traveling party? Lol, it’s ridiculous.
     
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    I would assume proper roster make-up would entail a handful of assests that are desirable/tradable. I don't think that's a hot take.
     
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    Yes, I should have used green font. One of my man failed jokes, thats on me, not you!

    My post was in response to someone who said Olshey has very few options to make a trade and later clarified he has few options because of the way the CBA is written. As if bad or untradeable contracts due to the CBA were not in anyway preventable. Would kinda be like blaming a coaches bad defensive scheme on the rules of the game.
     
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    Or maybe because players signed in the off season aren't eligible to be traded yet.

    Nah, couldn't be that simple.
     
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    I love watching him twist himself into a knot.
     
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    Everybody else laughed so no It's probably on me.
    Next question.
    When are they coming up with a new CBA? This should run through 23-24 right? I'm betting there is some changes in the mix? Pandemic Rules will have to be added for sure.
     
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    I didn't think we signed our entire roster this off-season. So what about everyone else? I thought we had 9 players that are eligibile to be traded right now, no? All 14 players can't be traded right now?
     
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    @Tince

    Dame isn't being traded.

    CJ, Nurk, and Zach are all injured which lowers their value so it would be foolish to trade them right now.

    RoCo could be traded but we gave up two firsts for him and he's played 14 games, unlikely to move on from a big acquisition like that this soon.

    Kanter could be traded but he's our only proven big right now.

    That leaves Simons, Little, and Elleby as pretty much the only realistic trade options if Portland wants a short term fix at the expense of the young guys. Combined they make around $5-$6 million plus if you traded all 3 for 1 you'd have to sign two more to the roster to make 14.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not really sure how anybody thinks making a move now gets us any value...

    Tylically you want to make moves from a position of strength.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Stackhouse? Why?
     
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