I've seen Bird, Magic, Jordan, & Kobe play, IMO LeBron is the G.O.A.T

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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  2. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Hint: Chris Bosh is neither a Dutch painter, nor a power tool.

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    I wish there was a dependable detective that get down to the root of them things.

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    Amazing performance by LeBron tonight.
     
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    LeBron isn't going to be greater than Jordan, but.. If we look just at game of basketball and who is better, I would pick LeBron.
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Watching him nail fadeaway jumper after fadeaway jumper while he completely owned the Raptors--it was Jordan-esque.

    It really sucks being a Blazer fan right now. But the utter futility--the dashed hopes--Raptors fans must feel right now. Fuck. I mean, I never had much hope of us getting out of the second round, so while getting swept in the first round sucked, I can tell myself that if we'd just drawn a different opponent (Thunder, say) we probably would still be playing. But LeBron is just this buzz saw that rips the hearts out of Toronto no matter what they do, no matter how good they are in the regular season.

    Their team looks so good on paper, and obviously worked so hard to get HCA in the second round and adapt to the Cavs. And it just doesn't matter.
     
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    What greats do is break their opponents mentally. I think the Eastern conference is sort of weak, but I also think Lebron has just beat down those teams for so long it’s in their heads that he’s coming. You even see this Steph Curry and while he’s a bit of a one trick pony, he is such a good shooter that he is always on the opponents mind no matter where he is on the court. Lebron has owned the east, and I think their are examples of teams that are better than his that just couldn’t jump the mental gap, the pacers a few years ago, Toronto, Washington, they all have a huge mental block.
    Michael did this to the east and kind of the entire NBA back in his day too. Teams just think they can’t beat these guys especially four times. Very, very few teams and players have done this and even guys Like Kobe, or Durant teams are very much aware of them, but still believe they can beat them. Even Duncan didn’t break opponents the way Lebron does and that is why Lebron belongs in the top 3-5 of all time in opinion. I still have Michael and Kareem as my 1-2 with Lebron at 3 but Lebron is phenomenally gifted as an athlete and has worked really hard to be an amazing basketball player as well.
     
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    Link??? Until you got some proof stop spewing hate...
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    This is a very good point. LeBron has owned the East and the other teams can't seem to get over the hump against him. The teams in the West don't have that same mental block. The Warriors and Spurs certainly didn't feel like they had no chance against the Heat/Cavs.

    Jordan owned the league. Early in his career, he had to learn to get past the great Celtics and Pistons teams, but once he did, there was no stopping him. There was never a doubt the Bulls were winning the finals all six times they made it there.

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    After Durant went to GS there did seem to be a “we can’t beat them”, mentality that’s overcame the entire league, including Lebron to an extent. His mantra is going to sound like, “well I did my job, but there’s just to much talent on GS”. But Lebron is the closest example of a single player just owning a conference or the League since Michael did it. I’ll give Houston some Kudo’s for making bold moves to try to compete with GS, a lot of the league seems to have gone to, let’s just tank and stockpile until GS slows down.
     
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    The difference is Jordan did that every game and with three guys hanging on him.
     
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    I know Saric said this and I think someone else did too when asked who they were hoping to match up in the playoffs "Just not LeBron!" That lack of confidence is a real thing especially in the playoffs where the pressure is intense.

    It reminds me of Tiger Woods. If he was leading going into the final round it was over because no one truly believed they could get the best of him on a Sunday.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's impossible for me to distinguish exactly which player was the best of all time. All I can say is that there are a number of players who deserve consideration.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Buzzer beater tonight

    He’s a beast. Nobody in the NBA impacts the game like Lebron. Honestly Durant isn’t even close, and he’s the second best active player.
     
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    But Harden is the best offensive player of all time.

    - Mike D'Antoni
     
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    I think the guy who is close is Curry (especially when he’s healthy), the range he has is just crazy. He may not be the overall player that KD or Durant is because of his size but on the offensive end his shooting, and dribbling is awe-inspiring at times.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'm gonna go with an even better offensive player of all time and that would be the Ice Man, George Gervin.
     
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    Pffft.. Great players dont let themselves get into an elimination situation....See MJ's Bulls.
     
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    Agree with OP. But I believe another player deserves some love. GOAT for me goes beyond NBA stats and awards.

    Kareem Abdul-Jabbar dominated from his earliest school games. He was so dominate in college the rules were changed to outlaw dunking! So he invented the unstoppabe and effecient sky hook shot.

    After the NBA he went on to an impressive acting career. He should have recieve an oscar for his role in Airplane. Ok, an oscar might be a slight stretch.
     
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