Jabari Parker

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  1. James lamphear

    James lamphear Well-Known Member

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    Why we got 2 small guards that don't play a lick of defense that starts. Yes they score a lot but they also give up a lot of points too. I wouldn't put Parker on the 1st unit but the 2nd unit to have a player at least can come in and give you consent double in scoring off the bench. Right now we don't have that player.
     
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    Which doesn't give us cap space. We are only one year removed from Turner, Harkless and Leonards contracts being expiring contracts which could be beneficial and getting rid of Turners contract doesn't really give us any cap space unless you also suggest letting Curry, Stauskas, Layman and Aminu to walk for nothing and then it still wouldn't be much. Another year of patience would be better.
     
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    Really? I love when people make up a narrative about a group with false context to try and put themselves above that group. That's what you're doing. I've been saying fire Stotts, fire Olshey, and dump Turner for the past couple years. Never changed my mind. Do you need me to pull a Gronk Brady in order to not seem "fickle"?

    The same issues exist through all the ebbs and flows. Unless those issues correct themselves or we make the WCF, they won't cease to exist regardless of how well we do.
     
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    Itd still help. Dumping ET opens up the Full MLE, BAE, and sign-and-trade opportunities.

    It'll be much easier to dump Meyers or Harkless than ET. ET is the first step if we were going to dump those three.
     
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    I'm not advocating it, but Melo at the vet minimum would be a better option.
     
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    You don't think I know the cap situation? Saving that money is the difference between being able to offer the full-MLE and BAE this summer instead of just the Tax-MLE. First of all, 2 of the 4 guys you mentioned are unrestricted with no bird rights so we would need a way to sign them if we wanted to keep them. Second of all, almost half of the league is going to be free agents this summer (as much as 49% could be) so there are going to be deals that could be had. Having the Full-MLE is going to be important.

    Besides, why are you worried about making sure we bring the exact same team back?
     
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    No it isn't. That's only what you think I am doing. My post wasn't directed at one person so no reason to take it [personally and try and justify it by saying you'be been saying it for X months. It only means you have little patience. :bgrin:
     
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    That would be the one sensible scenario. If they started throwing draft picks at Chicago (or anything else of actual value), it would be a mistake.
     
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    Well Chicago has no incentive to trade Parker just to add another large contract a year longer. They are rebuilding.
     
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    Then we need to stay away.
     
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    Did you even read what I said?! I mean, you bolded it...

    I said "I love when people make up a narrative about a GROUP"... you reply by saying you didnt direct it at any one person...

    Later on, you say I have "little patience", yet you dint even have enough patience to read my posts that you're quoting.
     
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    Stotts and Olshey have had the same flaws for years, how much longer should I have to wait until its not simply me being "impatient" if I want them gone?
     
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    Let me explain it to you. I DIDN'T PUT MY SELF ABOVE ANYONE ELSE. That was my response to the bolded statement where you claimed that. Does that clear it up for you? and I did read your post.
     
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    Im staying with 51 wins and getting out of the first round.
    I may come up short especially based on the way they've played of late. However, same thing last year at this time, losing streak and doom and gloom, no way we end up winning more than 40 games, well, we did.
    Im all for improving the team balance via a trade if opportunity is there.
    This is year 4 of the rebuild/and there has been an objective improvement plan guiding the incremental progress, but guaranteed that the weighting now is much more critical. I anticipate some trade that will help better balance the roster.
     
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    Do you consider yourself the end all to judging flaws of coaches, GM's and players? How much longer do you have to wait? Probably until the team decides to make a change, not because you think it needs to happen. If the team went off that kind of mindset we would have no players, no coach and no GM as almost every aspect of the Blazers have people wanting it changed at one time or another. Sly doesn't think we should have a trail cat for a mascot, but he's a bit biased.
     
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    I'd offer our 1st if we got back their 2nd, or if they took Meyers. And then I'd try to flip Parker.

    A couple ideas. Both goulet us under the luxury tax line, and open up money for next year.

    IDEA 1 - Most realistic
    CHI Gets: Evan Turner, Ben McLemore, 2019 POR 1st
    SAC Gets: Jabari Parker
    POR Gets: Kosta Kofous, 2019 CHI 2nd, $9.2M TPE (Evan Turner)

    IDEA 2 - A different version, better for us:
    CHI Gets: Evan Turner, Meyers Leonard, 2019 POR 1st
    SAC Gets: Jabari Parker, Cam Payne, Caleb Swanigan
    POR Gets: Kosta Kofous, Ben McLemore, $17.9M TPE (Evan Turner)
     
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    In "IFEA" 1, wouldn't we be getting the $9 million TPE?
     
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    Haha, yes. Corrected both.
     
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    In IDEA 2, we trade Swanigan so that Leonard and Swanigan matches the full amount of salary we're bringing in to create a $17.9M TPE for Turner, who's salary doesn't have to be sent out to complete the trade. That's how it works, right? @hoopsjock @PtldPlatypus
     

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