It depends on how you define the MVP. If you give people credit for boosting a team like when Nash won it right after he got to Phoenix and they were really good, Billups makes sense. If you are just going by the best player, Chris Paul should probably be on the list above Roy or Billups.
Blazers have a much better supporting cast then the Nuggets. Billups has been great this year, him ranked ahead of Roy is a valid argument.
Much better? Anthony, Nene, JR Smith, Kleiza, and some good role players like Chris Anderson and Martin? No, I would not say we have a "much" better supporting cast. At least not yet, as our guys still have a lot of room to improve. So if that is your argument, I'd say it's completely invalid. The Nuggets were a force before Billups arrived.
I think the best way to define MVP is to question where the team would be without "X" player. The Cavs without Lebron are probably a lottery team. The Lakers without Kobe, they're still pretty good. The Blazers without Roy are not making the playoffs but I don't think they're in the race for the #1 pick.
That was a weird list. Some of them you could tell he was being a homer and other ones like the all nba team he was just plain stupid putting Roy and Billups on the third team and not including parker
So they went from a 50 to a 54 win team. Wow! That beats going from 41 to 54. And I guess by your logic, Buck Williams should have been MVP, because he turned the Blazers from an above average team to a title contending team. Heck, at least the Blazers MADE it to the finals, the Nuggets may be bounced in the 1st round by Dallas.
I don't care which supporting cast was "better" or which team turned around more dramatically. Roy was the better player and therefore brought more value to his team than Billups did. Denver would be better with Roy instead of Billups and Portland would be worse with Billups instead of Roy. Roy is more valuable.
No, they went from the 8th seed to the 2nd seed. Billups is the main thing that is the difference between last year and this year. If Billups doesn't get traded to Denver Portland wins the division. Instead Billups' team is ahead of Roy's. And the playoffs have no meaning when it comes to the MVP trophy.
Quick explains his madness... He admits a mistake, but not the one some think. http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/04/d_will_vs_broy_and_nba_is_noti.html
He never said it was the right choice? What does he think his vote means, other than he thinks it's the right choice? barfo
I love some of the revisionism going on here. Before the season, virtually EVERYONE was predicting that the Nuggets were going to be substantially *worse* than last season. Instead they are a *better* team than they were a year ago. But hey....Billups sucks, right? Some of you have no sense of shame!
Actually, this makes Quick the anti-Swirsky (or anti-Boone). Swirsky pulled the homer vote by picking his home team rook, Bargnani, over Roy for ROY in 2007 (and Boone pulled a similar homer vote as the only one to pick Williams over Chris Paul for ROY the year before). Quick did the exact opposite. He dissed his own team's player (who is significantly better statistically AND has lead his team to more wins) and voted for Williams over Roy for 2nd team all-NBA. The good thing is it's only one vote. Hopefully, more knowledgeable writers from other markets will make the obvious choice, the same one the coaches made when voting for the all-star reserves, and vote for Roy over Williams. I'd still love to hear Quick's reasoning for this vote. Just when he was starting to gain a little credibility around here, he pulls a boneheaded move like this. Roy has been better than Williams, and had a more positive impact on his team's won/loss record. I'd like to know in exactly what way Quick thinks Williams is more deserving than Roy for 2nd team all-NBA. Asking the league to change his vote to Duncan over Durant screams unprofessional. It's like admitting he knows so little about the NBA he forgot Tim Duncan existed and wants a do-over to cover-up his own stupidity. BNM
if it looks like a duck, and acts like a duck... JQ has been the same guy for quite a while now. STOMP
IIRC, your argument was that Roy wasn't a Top 10 player right now because you factored in his play outside of this season. Perhaps I am wrong on that one, but regardless, Quick's pick is based on this season's play solely, and not any subjective window that helps someone "win" an argument on the internet. Roy is 7th in the NBA right now in PER for this season; Williams is 19th. For someone so dedicated to using PER as an objective matrix, you sure seem willing to dump it when is so obviously contradicts your own subjective opinion. FWIW, Billups is 38th in PER; LMA is 31st.
I assume all of you bashing Quick were not the same people bashing Swirsky for voting for Bargnani for ROY? Quick isn't being a homer, and I think he should be comended for it.
