Neither is Mike Bibby. The difference is Mike Bibby has the ball in his hands more but that doesn't mean he is a better passer.
I have seen him play and he sees the court well. He sees the open man and he executes his passes well.
Well I think Terry is a better passer than his stats show. He just doesn't take many risk which lead to assist. Terry has been very clutch for Dallas this year. I haven't seen Bibby do much clutch stuff this year. Bibby has been badly outplayed by Parker. I don't expect the same with Terry.
Mike Bibby is definitely a better passer than Terry. There's no comparison there. Bibby is one of the better playmakers in the league. And he doesn't have the ball much more than terry does. In the playoffs this year, pretty much every posession goes through an iso for Artest or Wells. And Sacto's offense involves alot of high post play. Brad Miller has the ball alot at the top of the key, and he gets a ton of assists.
I know someone has said this before, but the offense the teams run do make a big difference.I of course would take Terry, since he has played better this year on a better team, and has hit some clutch shots...the kinds of shots Bibby USED to be known for.Bibby may see the floor better, but it doesn't make him a better player. He averages 4 points more a game because he doesn't have Dirk, Howard, and Stackhouse to take shots away from him.Sure he has Bonzei and a few other guys...but Dirk takes, and makes, most of the shots...Plus, as Mavsfan pointed out, he does play less, and is asked to do less as a PG and more as a scorer.He's been pertrayed as a scorer not a PG for many years, when we actually don't know what he can do, since he's never been asked to be a PG.In Sactowns offense, you need a PG to set up the other players...and Dallas offense, you don't need that PG, but another scorer, able to pick and pop, or pick and roll with.That's the difference for me.Terry has played better the last 2 years than Bibby.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (S_Guard @ May 3 2006, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Terry is the best its as simple as that. Terry can do every thing bibby can do and stick defense much better and drive better.</div>I agree Terry is the guy you want on your team. He can contribute a lot to the team as can Bibby but Terry's got the edge.
But Terry isnt a true pg. He doesnt pass the ball often or well.Bibby is a guy who can go out and score 20 ppg, see the floor well, set up teammates and run an offense. The reason he isnt shooting well is that the Kings have a shoot first offense. Thats also why Artest isnt shooting well. In the Kings offense you're going to take an open jumper.Terry is just a scorer and shooter in my mind. Bibby is a scorer, shooter and a passer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ May 4 2006, 06:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But Terry isnt a true pg. He doesnt pass the ball often or well.Bibby is a guy who can go out and score 20 ppg, see the floor well, set up teammates and run an offense. The reason he isnt shooting well is that the Kings have a shoot first offense. Thats also why Artest isnt shooting well. In the Kings offense you're going to take an open jumper.Terry is just a scorer and shooter in my mind. Bibby is a scorer, shooter and a passer.</div>That's already been addressed...the offense the Mavs run causes him not be looked at as a true PG, just like his time in Atlanta, when he had no talent around him, and he had to be the scorer.Plus, he's not asked to do anything BUT be a second or 3rd option on offense.We have no idea if Terry is, or even can be a true PG, because he's not required to do that,not has he been asked to do that.So far, this year, especially in the playoffs, he's been playing great for the Mavs.You don't have to be a big assist guy, or be as good as Jason Kidd at seeing the floor, to be a good PG.I'm sure if Dirk wasn't on the Mavs, Terry would be avereging more points, and the offense would be different, and he'd probably have more assist.But we dont' know how much better a PG Bibby is than Terry...what we do know, is that Terry has played better the last two years, doing what he does.And as of right now, he's the better player, and the one I'd rather have.
Well, I guess Terry does not really have to run that Mavs offense but I just dont see him as a guy who can be a true pg. He doesnt seem to have very good court vision.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ May 3 2006, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>it's nobody by far, marvin, stop being a homer. I'll take Bibby. He is more of a true pg. Better playmaker and just as good of a scorer. The only thing is, Terry plays better in the clutch.</div> Are you kidding? Bibby is a very clutch player and has hit some huge shots. But I agree, I will take Bibby. Neither one is great defensively, but I would say Terry plays better D. But Bibby is more of a floor general and true PG, and yes, can score just as well, if not he may have a slight edge in the scoring department over Terry (but not by much at all). I think it's a shame neither one has been named an All-Star yet, especially Terry this year, with the season he was having individually, and the Mavs.
