Jay-Z Gonna Bring You Some Nets … Including One Named Lebron?

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  1. kobimel

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carter15Nets @ Jun 29 2008, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobimel @ Jun 29 2008, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carter15Nets @ Jun 29 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>get rid of vince carter for a player with 2 years or less

    with nash and bell and shaq by 2010 and expired as well...amare will sign with us also. (amare FA 2010 also)


    PG Devin Harris

    SG LeBron James/CDR

    SF Yi!/Ryan Anderson

    PF Amare Stoudemire/Sean Williams

    C Brook Lopez/Josh Boone

    And whoever else we get by now and 2010</div>

    Haha we'll need to have a 5 man roster in order to afford both LeBron and Amare. Keep dreaming. As for The King, as pegs said it's all speculation...don't get your hopes up too much.
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    lebron 1st year = 15-17 mill+

    rj was going to be 15 mill that cancels out


    vc 2010/2011 = 17 mill

    amare will prob get 13-15 mill+ also 1st year

    what u talkin bout?
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    Who are you kidding? Amare will demand at least 15-17 million and LBJ will want 18-20. You're underestimating. They'll both want max contracts. Together that's around 35 million dollars out of about 55 million. That leaves you with 20 million dollars for 12 players, which is good if you want a scrub supporting cast.
     
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    That camel(jay-z) is lame.
     
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    As soon as he resigns with Cleveland, I go back hating him.
     
  4. Real

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    I could see this board crashing two years from now, if LeBron stays or LeBron comes to the Nets.

    ...Or if LeBron signs with the Knicks.
     
  5. netsking

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    I think that Lebron has had a good talk with Jay Z and has told Jay Z to make room for him because if the Nets can match any contract offer he gets hell sign with them. Its obvious we are making space for him. We sound confident. All we have to do is wait and watch Lebron in a Nets jersey.
     
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    You guys better hope to be in a winning situation.

    LeBron wouldn't want to come to a team that isn't competing.
     
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    some guy on CNNSI asked if Jay was the minority owner because he was black. I wasn't sure if he was being serious.
     
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    Any team he goes to is automatically competing! But I think we'll have a strong foundation waiting for him...better than whatever Cleveland will have, that's for sure.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Special_Delivery @ Jun 30 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Any team he goes to is automatically competing! But I think we'll have a strong foundation waiting for him...better than whatever Cleveland will have, that's for sure.</div>

    I think if we want to offer him something better on the court than what he has at Cleveland, we'll have to offer up someone with a low post presence (assuming Big Z is still around in 2010). Can Yi develop into that? I don't think so. Can Nenad, if he signs and stays helathy? Not so sure. Much as I like athletic big men who aren't sucking wind by half court, I think the lack of a legit low post threat will be something that will negatively affect his decision to come here.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DownWithMSG @ Jun 30 2008, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Special_Delivery @ Jun 30 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Any team he goes to is automatically competing! But I think we'll have a strong foundation waiting for him...better than whatever Cleveland will have, that's for sure.</div>

    I think if we want to offer him something better on the court than what he has at Cleveland, we'll have to offer up someone with a low post presence (assuming Big Z is still around in 2010). Can Yi develop into that? I don't think so. Can Nenad, if he signs and stays helathy? Not so sure. Much as I like athletic big men who aren't sucking wind by half court, I think the lack of a legit low post threat will be something that will negatively affect his decision to come here.
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    I seriously doubt that Big Z will be around by then, he's in his mid 30s already and has had some bad injuries. Lopez can definitely be the low post threat by 2010, and I'm sure we'll be in the lottery next year and possibly after that as well. NOW is the time for the Nets to build the supporting cast of the future, for LeBron or whoever else we decide to make the franchise leader. ATM it's VC, and I'm happy with that.

    LeBron's focus in 2010 might or might not be winning a championship, it could simply be to make the most money possible and help whatever team can offer him that. When you look at the big market teams that LeBron will be attracted to, you can gauge what type of financial situation they'll be in by 2010. The Lakers will be low on cash, as will the Knicks. I think we know who will be saving up the money for the King though!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Jun 29 2008, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys better hope to be in a winning situation.

    LeBron wouldn't want to come to a team that isn't competing.</div>
    Exactly
     
  12. Petey

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobimel @ Jun 29 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who are you kidding? Amare will demand at least 15-17 million and LBJ will want 18-20. You're underestimating. They'll both want max contracts. Together that's around 35 million dollars out of about 55 million. That leaves you with 20 million dollars for 12 players, which is good if you want a scrub supporting cast.</div>

    That might be their average over the life of the contract, but won't be their starting. There are limits on $$ per players.

    Edit: Found the figures on Coon's.
    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#11

    LBJ will have 7 years under his belt, that's 30% of the cap. Amare with 8 years under his belt qualifies for the same 30% of the cap.

    If they dump Carter, it's possible they could acquire both Amare and LBJ. With some of the young guys on rookie deals it's possible to put together a squad. Look at what the Bulls and Lakers have done in the past 20 years with that method...


    -Petey
     
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    Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

    Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

    Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

    The Celtics proved to be the best team in the NBA last year, I don't think Sasha could change that.

    I think the Celtics (and Nets) should be worried if the Cavs acquire Michael Redd.
     
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    In 2010 the team the Nets could put around LeBron has to look better then what he has in Cleveland. I think Yi needs to be part of that Nets team.

    Let's take a wild guess and say LeBron’s domestic endorsement deals would go up +$20mill if he played in New York.

    Let's take another wild guess and say LeBron’s International (China) endorsement deals would go up +$20mill if he played with Yi.

    Jay-Z should be able to paint a real pretty picture for LeBron:

    More money then he would make in Cleveland (wild guess +$40 mill)
    More planetary stardom (and brand recognition) then he would have in Cleveland
    A better chance at rings then he has in Cleveland

    All taking place in the house that LeBron built.
     
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    There is soo much hype about LeBron coming here now that it's almost like all of us expect him to be a Net next year. Hopefully it happens, personally I'm getting a feeling that we end up blowing it and not landing LeBron but land someone like Wade.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 30 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

    Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

    The Celtics proved to be the best team in the NBA last year, I don't think Sasha could change that.

    I think the Celtics (and Nets) should be worried if the Cavs acquire Michael Redd.
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    I don't think Sasha would have made the Cavs better than the Celtics, but the Cavs came within a few missed shots in Game 7 of beating the Celtics. Had Sasha been playing well, he could have been the difference.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

    Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

    That will never happen so long as Danny Ferry runs that team. He's in that 2nd tier of awful GM's right behind Chris Wallace and Kevin McHale.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Jun 30 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

    Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

    That will never happen so long as Danny Ferry runs that team. He's in that 2nd tier of awful GM's right behind Chris Wallace and Kevin McHale.
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    I think that's harsh; he inherited a really poor team with virtually no tradable assets to make a supporting cast for LeBron. His drafting has been iffy, but nothing terrible. He finally has some pieces that might allow the Cavs to acquire some good players to back LeBron up, notable (I think) circa $25m in expiring contracts that he can shift to teams wanting cap space. This is Ferry's make or break year: he has to get a supporting cast for LeBron and it is known that he has made enquiries about Redd, JO and Vince Carter as well as Jason Kidd earlier in the year. It was not through lack of trying that no-one has been acquired. Also, it is well-known by Clevelanders that Ferry is good at working under the radar - there a very few leaks whilst he is formulating a deal, unlike many other teams. So sometimes it seems as though not much is getting done, but I can assure you that this is not the case.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

    Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

    Yes. But how much could it change?

    Even if it was 33 or 35% think any team that could, would hesitate to offer that to James or Amare?

    -Petey
     

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