Jaynes: Unbalanced trade coming. BE: It could be for Nash

Re: Unbalanced Trade?

That only works on paper.

Familiarity and intuition among the players and coach from experience playing for some time as a unit trumps most everything else.

If Miller goes, we need a much younger version of Nash, not a rapidly declining Nash.

Otherwise Miller is better for us than Nash could ever be.

 

Roy and Oden are the pieces we need to move.

For a healthy star center.

 

Two things:

1. True... you were posting to Nate instead of Brian

2. Nice move to avoid blame, you did a cross over that would break Steve Nash's ankles!

 

You can put MJ in his prime on this team and it doesn't matter! Nate will not allow this team to get up and go. Further Nate has proven he doesn't have a clue about how to run an offense. This is who we extended first though! In the meantime we fire two capable GM's in a year, one on draft day, and are considering trading the only PG we have for??? When your team is run like the Raiders this is what happens. Paul Allen is really making a great name for the Trailblazers.

 

His arguement has at least as much merit as my statement that Batum is actually 25 not 22 because France uses the metric system.

 

LOL you are dreamin if you think we can trade Roy and Oden for a healthy "star center"? Are U serious?

 

Unfortunately the people around him and the media crowned him King before he even graduated from highschool and he just doesn't know any better... he believes his own hype.

 

Re: Unbalanced Trade?

Nash is not worth it and not the way to go, fully agree with U

 

See what I mean Nate? Now he's acting like he's way better than us... and the lives we have to go back to when he's done posting.

 

Good grief folks.

I've been as big a Batum booster as anybody...but let's get real. He is a nice role-player, but that's about it. He isn't going to magically turn into a star if he gets traded.

 

Two things:

1. Even nice role-players have value. A bunch of seasons from a nice role-player can be of much more value to a franchise that 1-2 seasons from a better player.

2. Players getting better as they get older doesn't require magic. It is, in fact, the usual way things work, though it is not guaranteed. If Batum is a nice role-player at 23, he may well be significantly more than that at 26-27.

 

He has the tattoo and everything!

 

I agree with the first point, not so much with the second.

There is simply no evidence that Batum will ever become a top-flight rebounder, playmaker or a player that can create his own offense. He may go from "very good" to "great" as a defender, but given the other limitations he has, that won't really elevate him above role-player status.

 

I don't know if I'd say he's even a "very good" defender at this point. I felt like his defense slipped last season.

 

Here's the plan, get with the program. Nash plays 2 injury-filled years for the Blazers. When he does play, he drives McMillan nuts with the fast break. McMillan withdraws into Cheeksdom and lets Nash run things. Their contracts both end 2 years from now. The new owner, Paul Allen's sister, does the obvious, and Nash replaces McMillan. Everyone likes this story except Paul Allen.

 

I never said he'd become a star or a top-flight player. Just that players are typically significantly better at 26-27 than at 23. In some sense, it's a bit pointless to split hairs over whether he'll be a "good role-player," "super role-player," "low-level star," "legitimate All-Star." Basketball player ability doesn't exist along a group of discrete categories...it's a continuous spectrum. Wherever Batum is now, there's a pretty good chance that he'll be above that level in a few years, regardless of what you or I ultimately label that level. It's not guaranteed, but there's a strong likelihood.