If this is true (not saying it is) it might help explain why management has been so lukewarm on getting a KP extension done and why his job is in jeopardy.
Was Patterson not "overseeing" that draft? Or was he just "overseeing" KP's brilliant 2006 draft? Pretty bird
Didn't you say that you were going to stop that infantile bull crap if KP made a mid-season trade this year? I don't really care, but I sure don't want to hear any more of this, "MIXUM is a man of his word" bs anymore. Go Blazers
Well, Nash was in charge of the basketball operations until the end of the 2006 season, and before that draft. At that point, Steve Patterson was given the GM duties as well as president duties, and KP was promoted to asst GM. It wasn't until the following draft that KP took over completely. So yes. John Nash was in charge of the 2005 draft, and Steve Paterson was in charge of the 2006 draft. KP has been in charge of the drafts since. Patterson had more of hand in the 2006 draft than he did in the 2005 draft if you believe the GM runs the drafts more than the President or asst GM There was also that Todd Leiweke guy in there as well.
:sqwak: you're just some kind of parrot bird ... parroting the conventional wisdom that Patterson had some kind of hand in remaking this roster ... pretty bird.
So I guess when a story gets written that may or may not contain new information that could potentially change the conventional wisdom it's 'parroting' to discuss that story's merit? You're right, better to keep toeing the "KP is is your god" line blindly, that's much better. :sqwak:
Sorry, but I find that rationale a little hard to swallow. Trying to lock Zach up with a long term deal made sense - but he significantly overpaid for it. Throwing fat, long term deals at Miles and Theo was like lighting money on fire. And no, that isn't 20-20 hindsight. Many of us on BBF said the same thing the day the deals were signed. Besides, what did money have to do with the Telfair/Webster picks? For a team trying to be frugal, draft picks are the most cost effective way to add talent. Pissing away the draft is not being cost conscious.
I think KP is a god? That's interesting. This is not conventional wisdom. This is one article by Pete V, and a pretty bad at that. You're the one who said it was conventional wisdom. Meaning every one knew it was Patterson. That's absolute bullshit and you know it is. And none of it is "new information." There's no information in it at all. There's no story of how Patterson ran that draft. No details. It's just another wank Anti KP article from "sources" with nothing of substance in it. But you and the others will eat this shit up like a giant saltine fucking cracker.
Amongst Blazers fans? So I guess the term 'pritchslapped' was some kind of New York media invention? Maybe Vescey is making everything up, but generally speaking when it comes to non-trade rumor stuff (that he's notorious for making up) Peter Vescey's information and sources are usually pretty good ... maybe some source is feeding him bullshit, but the notion that Patterson had a larger hand in the 2006 draft is definitely new information. You seem to think that just because something is under discussion we all must be buying it hook, line and sinker; I don't know if it's true or not, but it is interesting to think about.
OK, listen carefully: you don't like KP. WE GET IT! In the depths of the Amazon rain forrest, there are illiterate, stone age tribesmen who get it! If there is life on Uranus, they have heard your opinion on the subject. At the point your dislike of KP makes you defend PatterNash....you seriously need to stop and check yourself. (And don't try to say that isn't what you are doing. In the context of this thread, that is *exactly* what you are doing.)
If they were really under strict orders from uncle Paul to cut costs then that was another aspect of their job they failed miserably at. Trading Wallace and his huge (18M) expiring contract for SAR and Theo didn't cut costs especially once they prematurely extended Theo to a max contract. Prematurely extending Zach to a max contract (when no one else had above MLE $) didn't cut costs either. Miles was also signed to a huge contract when no one else had above MLE $. Overall the club's payroll didn't really go down that much under PatterNash, it was revenues that were slashed. By their final full season together in Portland the club was last in the league in both their record and attendance. STOMP
No, Kevin Pritchard made it up. He Loves attention and credit you know. What's the information? Where are the details?
The new information is the notion that maybe KP wasn't quite the mastermind of the 2006 draft that's he's been made out to be by local media like JC and Quick ... that maybe he's gotten a little more credit that was his due. But I get it, you think I'm anti-KP. Truth is I'm neither for or against; I just try to keep an open mind and when somebody presents a new idea or thought I like to talk about it.
What? I have no idea if you like him or not. I'm only talking about the subject at hand. This article. A little advice. When you read an article like this, don't read what's there, read what's not there. i.e. quotes and details.
Wait, what? Quotes and details would have to be written to read them yes? If they're not there how am I supposed to do this "read what's not there" thingy you're talking about?
