Jeremy Lin - Max Contract

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  1. Rastapopoulos

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    BUMP.

    Now that Woodson has taken over, I thought Lin would basically vanish into the woodwork. But he hasn't. So it looks like Lin might not just be a product of D'Antoni. ALSO: since we last discussed this, Nate has been fired. So even if Lin was a product of D'Antoni, we could hire D'Antoni as well!

    In fact: how about:
    D'Antoni for new coach
    Lin for new PG
    Donny Walsh (who supposedly had a great relationship with D'Antoni but was forced by ownership into the Melo trade against his will) for new GM.

    (On Lin: I think Linsanity was infact Linsane, but that Jeremy Lin is a very smart and a very clutch player, and we could really use somebody like that. He's got sort of Derek Fisher intangibles with a better game.)

    THAT SAID, and remembering the thread title, it would be Linsane in the bad, certifiable sense, to offer him the max. I think he's comparable to someone like Goran Dragic, who earns only $2M a year. I'm still unclear: are teams forbidden from offering Lin more than the mid-level?
     
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    And we'd do all of this because the Knicks under D'Antoni were such a wonderful model of basketball success?
     
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    Well, they were from when they started Lin to when Carmelo came back and started hogging the ball.

    Conversely: Lin is still playing well under Woodson. Plus the Suns with D'Antoni's system were AWESOME, and if D'Antoni can make Boris Diaw and Channing Frye look good...

    Of course, if there was any chance of us getting Rondo or D-Will, then obviously that would be preferable. But there isn't. Who do YOU see as our starting PG next season? There aren't even any potentially great PGs in the draft.
     
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    when did D'Antoni make Channing look good?
     
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    Yeah no!!! Wouldn't even consider linsanity either. Lin may pan out to be a great pg. but I suspect our team needs a proven one. No more guessing about our floor general. We need a leader!
     
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    And who is that great proven leader, itching to land in Portland?
     
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    Nash. Or getting rondo via trade.
     
  8. Rastapopoulos

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    Does wishful thinking count as a plan? Why not wish for Derrick Rose, while we're dreaming?
     
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    Nash is hardly wishful thinking. No way Phoenix matches a 12 mil per offer; which we could offer. And as for rondo, it depends where we land in the draft. If we manage to get lucky and land the #4 pick, we could use that and take on contract to land him.

    So you may think its wishful. I think it's actually not that hard.
     
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    Isn't that the same wishful thinking that has you thinking NY will not match an offer to him? Your wishful thinking is ok, but his is wrong. Gotcha.
     
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    Because they're not FUCKING INSANE? It's a miracle of science and Phoenix's tiptop training crew that Nash is still going despite having a degenerative back condition. And he's what, 37? Do you really think we'd be contenders in 3 years? Maybe if we'd hung on to Gerald and Camby (but then, of course, we wouldn't have cap space).

    If Phoenix weren't planning on keeping Nash they would've traded him. It's clear that he's going nowhere. And do you honestly think Paul Allen would okay that kind of contract?

    That's possible. But if we sign a free agent instead, we get to keep the #4 pick AS WELL.
     
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    Actually it's not about being insane. It's because they don't have any valuable assets to build around accept for gorgot. If they had Batum and Aldridge type players they match easily.
     
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    No, that's "uninformed thinking". I read somewhere that he was a UFA. I have now done my reading and see that he is restricted, so... never mind.

    [Looking at the free agent list: wow, that's got to be the shittiest collection ever. No wonder D-Will opted out. Of course, he'd get max money anyway. I think I'll be disappointed with ANY free agent. I hope we use our cap space to absorb other teams' players in trade instead. But not at the cost of draft picks.]
     
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    I agree with you on this. It is not far fetched if we land two top ten lotto picks. Either team would be interested. I am not sure I want the Blazers to do it.

    Nash: No way. Too old compared to the rest of the team
    Rondo: Yeah I would do it depending who else we had to give up.

    Not sure DAntoni is the answer though. What has he won again? (With better players than we have)
    Do players like him? He seems to rub people the wrong way.
     
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    Depends on the question. If the question is "what coach would make watching the Blazers fun again, maybe as fun as the Drexler years" he's one good answer.

    Coach of the year. What had Rick Carlisle won before last year?

    Well, hell, a LOT of teams will have better players than us for a while. Actually D'Antoni seems to do well with less talent: Suns without Amare, Knicks without Amare OR Melo.

    Yes, apparently he is very popular with his players. Except Melo. But there's always SOME player who hates a coach - Tim Hardaway hated Rick Adelman, perhaps the ultimate players' coach. Oh, and probably Darko now.
     
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    umm, coach of the year? (2001/2002) :biglaugh:
     
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    I do not entirely disagree with you. But the honeymoon period with Blazer fans for being content watching the Blazer's play a fun brand of basketball and not be contenders will very short. Can D'Antoni's style of ball win a championship? (all offense and little D) I am not convinced.

    He is probably the best option we have out there though.
     
  18. Rastapopoulos

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    Um, exactly. The point is, that we have the same reason to hire D'Antoni as Dallas had to hire Carlisle. Carlisle had never won a title when he was hired.
     
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    i think sam mitchell is available no? havent been paying too much attention to his COY winning career
     
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    So we hire D'Antoini and become a more fun team to watch that will probably have 3 to 4 more wins a year because of how many of our players would be suited to running (Mainly Ewill/LA/Batum and probably the lotto picks). We will still be 1 and done's or at best second rounders. D'Antoini has proven that his system doesn't work in the post season. He also never tries to get his teams to play D.
    As for PGoTF no way i'm trading a lotto pick for Nash, or even any asset. If we sign him in the off season cool if not well oh well. We win the lottery and have NJ pick I think we can convince Dwill to sign here. If not and we still have NJ pick i'm sure we could work something out for Rondo. Our best lottery pick and something else which won't be Batum, because there not giving us Rondo at 10m a season to get Batum at 10m a season, and I don't like the idea of trading 2 top 10 lottery picks for a player who has such a giant hole in his game.
     

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