Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

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  1. hoopsjock

    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    The question wasn't whether or not he spent money it was if he had handed out any other bad contracts.

    My point is that if you eliminate one year out of seven off seasons as Blazers GM Olshey hasn't traded for or signed one bad contract. Why is it that the other 6 years he meticulously planned for contracts to end the same year and to not take on bad deals and then one summer just goes completely against that? Something doesn't add up there to me and that is why I believe Paul Allen had most of the say in the contracts that summer. Yes, it's still on the GM but it's just extremely odd that his reputation is that he hands out bad contracts when six out of the seven years he hasn't. I'm also not saying that he deserves a pass for 2016 because it was really fucking bad.
     
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    That’s fair, honestly joking aside the way I see him is more as the guy who it just “never works out” for. Maybe it’s not fair, and in fact I know it isn’t completely fair, but it seems like everything is his plan c or d and rarely plan a happens. Even his best year 2015 plan a was to keep LaMarcus right? Even this year, well they “almost” had Cousins, and they were going after wings, and the trade exception.
     
  3. Scalma

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    When has he even been in position to hand out bad contracts except the summer of 2016? I don’t remember Portland having any significant cap space outside of that summer.
     
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    not only that we were in a position because of CJ's extension to essentially use our capspace or lose it.
     
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    There's more teams tanking than before. Less teams are in a position to make that type of splash. Removing hindsight, Sabonis and Oladipo wasn't a great value at the time.

    I don't think LA is gonna give up anything for Butler when they could go after him in free agency.

    Also, picks in 2021/2023 will have value, since Butler could leave which means those picks would be solid, and with the minimum draft age set back to 18, one of them could be a superdraft.

    Yes itd probably take CJ, but it's not inconceivable that 3 firsts could be the best offer for Butler at the deadline.
     
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    If you read all the posts in the discussion you would have seen that we talked about that. In 2012 and 2015 he had plenty of cap space too. Part of my point is that Olshey also never traded for bad contracts or re-signed any players he had bird rights to other than that summer. It's not just about having cap space.
     
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    Hard to trade for bad contracts when your roster is filled with rookie scales and minimum types with no cap space.
     
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    So the first three seasons here 2012-2015 the roster was filled with those kind of guys?
     
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    Now if that doesn't convince everyone that ALL TV networks embellish the hell out of stories, and yes, even to the degree of Fake Fing News.
    Its all about creating a frenzy to capitalize on ratings, whether, good or bad, happy or sad!

    Thats why I don't watch much FOX, CNN, MSBNC they are all a bunch of media prostitutes.
     
  11. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Fuck Dave Deckard.

    Dave Deckard: Breaking news about...free agent signings... and trades... for the one, and only, local team you cover... is so hard... folks...

    Adrian Wojnarowski: *walking behind, breaking news about every free agent signing and pending trade for the entire fucking league*

    BNM
     
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    I’m not disagreeing, but isn’t that just an Ad Hominem arguement? It doesn’t necessarily prove he’s wrong, just proves he’s not good at his job either...
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    It was a cry for attention.

    I'm better now.

    :cheers:
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    It's not even an argument. Just pointing out his hypocrisy. People who live in glass houses, and all that...

    BNM
     
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    Fair enough! :)
     
  16. Scalma

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    Are the guys at blazersedge reporters? Most of them don’t even have press passes. They’re just bloggers. And in this case, they made a good joke, since there’s some truth in it. And I hate blazersedge.
     
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  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    They made a joke at Olshey's expense and I turned that around and made a joke at their expense. Turnabout is fair play, hoisted by their own petard, and all that...

    BNM
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Kicks him off his soapbox.

    It's never good to say "all" or "never".
     
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    Heehee.
     
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    #BAM

    GOT ME!!!
     
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