Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Sep 15, 2018.

  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Good advice to everyone, in general (myself included), and especially in this thread.

    BNM
     
  2. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    Honestly not sure how I feel about this, but I think for the most part the intent of the idea is good, and this probably isnt the right thread to explore this rabbit hole lol.
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Trust me, I'm not worried about you. Just a curious question based on conflicting statements.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Brooklyn or New York still would. They're desperate for a player like that.
     
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    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    Not really interested in giving Butler a supermax deal.
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Good. Then don't post about me and only post about the topic.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Do you want to give CJ a supermax deal in a couple years?
     
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  8. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Don't get so defensive. You say you don't have much emotion invested sports anymore. I actually envy that at times. So I was surprised to see you say you were "tired" of things. Nevermind then.
     
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    To answer your question. The Blazers being mediocre and essentially making zero progress in three years has also had a major factor in me losing interest. It's not entirely their fault. The Warriors have made the league extremely uninteresting to me, as a whole.

    With that said, my favorite time to be a fan was back in the Trader Bob days when he was wheeling and dealing and at least trying to put together a team that could win a championship. That's not what Neil is doing. Neil is treading water and hoping that one of his young guys turn into a star.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    CJ is signed through the 20-21 season, which means we are roughly two seasons away from extension talks. CJ will be 29 during his final season of this contract.
     
  11. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    If you could remove the Warriors, the league would be extremely interesting. You'd have probably 10 teams with a chance at winning a championship. Houston got worse, so who knows who the West would go to. The East is up in the air this year too. Without Golden State I'd probably be more on board with a Butler trade because I feel like it'd give us more of a chance to win a championship. Taking risks to fight for 2nd place is just "meh" to me...
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The Warriors are one injury to Curry away from being mortal.

    I'm also not convinced that the Boogie addition won't blow up in their face.
     
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    His 16-17 form the answer is yes.
    His 17-18 form the answer is maybe.

    At the end of the day he's locked up for another couple years.
    Therefore there is no rush to trade him away for an injury prone, high milage, character issue, 30 year old supermax contract Jimmy Butler.

    I'm not against trading CJ.
    But it needs to be a nice deal with minimal risk.
    As right now CJ has very few, if any negative traits about him.
    (not injury prone, gets along with people, isn't aging, low milage, under contract, etc)
     
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    GSW have really burned out a lot of the interest there was in the NBA for me. Still love the Blazers, but the NBA has become too predictable.
     
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    The issue is you have no way of knowing until 9 months from now.

    You have to make the choice now & live with the results
     
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    Winning what? 42-48 games per year, and being bounced in the first round?

    I wouldn't call that winning for years
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm not that worried about Butler leaving honestly.

    If you offer him the max, I think he stays.

    He asked for the max from Minny, they said no, so he asked for a trade.
     
  18. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'm talking about the scenario where we trade for Butler and he meshes well with Dame and resigns. You don't think we'd win in that scenario?
     
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    tester551 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. Misunderstood you. I thought you were stating keeping CJ = winning.

    Trading for Butler = him leaving.
     
  20. SharpesTriumph

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    Its not even that GSW are so good... I can handle that. It's the way an already historic 73 win team is able to sign an MVP. Jordan never would have signed with the Pistons/Celtics/Lakers/etc. Those teams never would have tried to sign Jordan. The way star players take less money to keep other teammates which in my mind is cheating. I enjoyed watching the Warriors team with Bogut and company develop from a lottery club to an unselfish contender. If they kept that core and were dominant it would be fine. But that core wanting to add Durant and him wanting to go to a great team really destroyed the NBA.

    I have paid attention the last week with the Butler news... but outside of rare moments like this I have little interest in the NBA, Blazers, or sports anymore. Agree with much of what Nate has mentioned. Move on and enjoy other things in life that make you happy.
     

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