So they apparently turned down a deal that included Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo and a first round pick. I don’t really expect Miami to offer them much more so it’s probably just a question of details now as I don’t expect any other team to beat Miami’s offer either and he seems intent on moving there. Also for Miami this is the only chance they are going to get to add a star to their current roster as their salary is pretty bloated. Pretty sure Butler will be playing for Miami this year.
Hold on, Miami was in the running and their offer was Richardon, Adebayo and a first rounder, but according to some fans, the Blazers "had" to include CJ? I guess thats why none of us are GM's.
I'm actually hoping this is how it all shakes out. So far, MIA has offered a hot plate of shit, but apparently no one else is willing to give them anything better than a below average wing, a back up for KAT and a late 1st round pick for Butler. This makes MIN worse AND moves Butler to the East where he won't help any of the other Western Conference teams we will be battling against for playoff seedings. Short of us getting Butler without giving up Dame, C.J. or Nurk, this is the best possible outcome. Plus, since MIA is on Butler's "list" he's likely to resign there, rather than go ring chasing with LeBron in LA. BNM
Moe, Aminu, Collins and a first? I don't know, my point wasn't that the Blazers could do better, but that they didn't HAVE to trade CJ (since none of the players that were potentially traded are on his level).
That's not better. Adebeyo has more trade value than all 3 of them, and Richardson definitely does. Its actuallu arguable that Richardson is near the same level of player as CJ since hes an elite defensive player and a very solid iffensively player.
I didn’t post a link because it’s behind a paywall. Reported by Shams and the wolves beat writer today. https://theathletic.com/578109/2018...innesota-tom-thibodeau-trade-request-sources/
Let the fireworks begin! Man, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room. Butler hasn't practiced with the team, he has made it very clear, multiple times, that he doesn't want to be there, and as far as his teammates are concerned, the feeling is mutual. Today's word is "distraction". Can you say "distraction"? I knew you could. This word brought to you by Tom Thibodeau. BNM
You are seriously overvaluing both Adebayo and Richardson. Adebayo is a decent back up center right now and has the upside to possibly one day, be an average starter. Compare his rookie numbers to Ed Davis' rookie numbers. They are virtually identical. Yeah Bam was younger, but I'm really not seeing a who lot of untapped potential. He isn't elite at anything and in today's NBA can only play one position - center, which is the least valuable position these days, especially for a guy who isn't an elite rim protector. His only real value is that he's young and cheap, but the Wolves are set for the next decade at center with KAT, so BAM would be looking at 15 MPG as his back up. Josh Richardson is not an elite defender and not even close to the same level as C.J. He has never made any all defense team or gotten a single vote for DPOY. If you think he's an elite defender, you have a very loose definition of the word elite, and if he is, you could say the same thing about both Aminu and Turner. Fact is, none of them are elite defenders, they are all good defenders, but that's it. And, Richardson is below average offensively. He started 81 games and SF and averaged 0ver 33 MPG. He got the bulk of MIA's minutes at SF, and SF was MIA's weakest position in terms of both NET points and NET PER. In both cases, they gave up more than they got at SF and Josh Richardson was the one playing most of those minutes: Richardson is a good, but nowhere near elite, defender, and a below average offensive player. You could make a case that he's a little better than Aminu overall, but he also happens to play the same position as the other 22-year old MIN signed to a max extension. So, like Bam backing up KAT, Richardson will primarily be backing up Wiggins. He could also play some SG, but it really isn't his best position and if he is MIN's starting SG, that's a HUGE dropoff from Jimmy Butler. Basically, MIN would be getting a below average wing and a young back up center for a 4 time all star, 4 time second team all defense and 2 time all NBA 3rd team player. But, if that's all MIN can get for him, I'd be totally cool with that. It would all but guarantee MIN would not be in contention for a playoff spot in the West this season. Anything that makes them weaker helps us. BNM
I listen to the starters (who are not as good as they were before they got into the NBA Fold), but they were talking about how much they just love watching Richardson play defense. So he mught be over valueing Richardsons defense a tiny bit, but he’s not alone in that. Also I think his defense is pretty good!
Meh, I know it's hard to measure defense statistically, but Richardson's DBPM was 1.5 last season, the best of his career. Aminu's was 1.9 and Harkless' was 2.0. I also know that DRtg is team dependent, but MIA was 7th in the league team defensive efficiency at 106.3 and POR was 8th at 106.4, about as close as two teams can be defensively. Aminu had a DRtg of 105, Harkless was at 106, and so was Richardson. Again, when I think of Josh Richardson, I think "meh". Better than average on defense, below average on offense. His career best PER of 13.6 suits him. BNM
I'd be cool with that. MIN would not get the benefit of having Jimmy on the floor (we all saw how terrible they were defensively without him last year) nor would they have the benefit of having his replacements, and then unlike SAS, who actually got an all star and a decent young big for Kawhi, MIN would watch Jimmy walk for nothing. BNM
