Zombie Joakim Noah

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  1. Draco

    Draco Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I really doubt it we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

    It would be interesting too because Noah's entire $13mil contract would come out of the pockets of his new teammates since we are below the salary floor.
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Well, I hope and expect that to change if we have a chance to acquire a player that improves our chances by the trade deadline. Be it Noah or someone else. I'm reasonably sure Noah is there for the asking. Not sure who else will be there.
     
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    Getting Noah for nothing is a good plan J.
    Getting Noah and a 1st rounder is a good plan E (for Montero, for example)
    Getting Cousins is a good plan A.
    Not doing anything and getting zero use from our capspace this year is not a good plan at all!

    Some in this thread are ignoring the last one entirely.
     
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    Don't be surprised if they BOTH go (most likely split the 2 to different teams). Portis IS legit, young, skilled, tough, cheap, etc. & to serve as a backup, they can easily find a young HEALTHY guy for cheap:wink:

    IF we do them this HUGE favor, I hope just shedding Noah would be enough to bring us Doug! BUT IF it takes moving Noah AND Taj... I say STILL do it for McBuh-buh-buh-BUCKETS!:blazerwookie:
     
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  5. Denny Crane

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    What about Meyers? Shaky start to the season aside, he sounds like a good fit. If we're bringing in a big, we'd have to free up space by moving one... And it would be a homecoming of sorts for Meyers. We'd be giving up a young prospect, though, so what could Chicago sweeten the pot with?
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think the Bulls would love Meyers, or maybe not. They're already deep at PF/C. What they want is less salary and that means they probably don't want Meyers'.
     
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    Good way of thinking about it. Yeah Noah as a player has value; I'd certainly love to sign him if he were a free agent available for the minimum. I shouldn't have said he was zero value; he is nearly zero long term but still more than nothing. But we'll have to see what other offers are out there. I'd hate to trade for Noah then the 6ers get multiple first round picks for their cap space.
     
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    Yeah maybe if we get McBuckets for taking on Noah we give them Meyers.
     
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    Noah with his knees isn't going to last many more years in the league before he retires...If he were in his prime and would stay I'd be all for it.
     
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    Clearly on the decline.

    Nowhere near as good as he was just a few years ago.

    Factor in his age and I don't see how he makes any sense here. Especially how solid Plumlee is.
     
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    I feel like I am in Bizarro World. For the last couple of years I talked about getting Noah and dealing RoLo and Batum to fill another spot, because I thought Noah defensively was superior to Lopez in almost every way, a better offensive player, too, and was as good a passing big as there was in the NBA. I think it was my first post here and the response was "That's just stupid."

    Now everyone wants to trade for him as his career winds down, all he would do is take time from young players we basically are trying out and potentially takes us out of a lottery pick with no chance of going anywhere in the playoffs if we even make it there.

    It's like the Twilight Zone. No. No. No. No. No.
     
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    I get you here..if this was a contending team, yeah, the guy would fit. But as we are..I love the guy , but would have to pass unless it was for zip
     
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    These threads are always tough because, partially, people just look at adding him without reading the premise and say no. Other issue is, reading the premise, how exactly are we in the playoffs? Is our rotation of Plumlee and Meyers doing awesome up front, with a mix of Davis and Vonleh? Who knows.
    That being said, for free, in a playoff push? Absolutely. I love Noah. Loved him at Florida, and loved his rookie year when veterans had to call him out, for calling THEM out, because he wanted to actually, you know, go all out. Peple thought he was an issue in the locker room super early, dude just wanted to win. Sure. I'll take 3 months of that, and see where we stand in the offseason. Especially at zero cost.
     
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    That's the thing with me. I think a healthy Portland squad with Noah has a real shot to make the playoffs and to potentially catch lightning in a bottle and go far. Having two elite scorers along with some great garbage men/defenders like Davis, Noah, Al-Aminu, and Vonleh to an extent, combined with bigs like Meyers and Plumlee who can put double figures in points, alongside athletic, competent-at-defending scoring threats at wing with Henderson, Harkless, and potentially Crabbe leaves a lot of options. That would prove a deep lineup that can withstand some minor injuries save Lillard and C.J. missing extended time. I think there would be enough experienced talent and enough quality pieces to perhaps come together and really play well as soon as now. Is it worth blowing a chance at a lower end lottery pick to see just how good this team could become with a glue man defender with playoff experience working himself into the team's identity? It would be fun to follow.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Just to be clear, I wasn't putting Noah on the same level as Hernandez, I was offering evidence that "well liked" and "philanthropic" aren't exactly conclusive evidence that one isn't a scumbag.

    As for why so much hate? As if dipping one's frog legs in Swedish meatball gravy isn't enough...
     
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    I understand taking on Noah if we get something else of value that will actually be here after this year. But do we really want to give up our toughness at the SF position by adding "McBuckets"?

    If you want someone to replace Aminu, Harkless and Crabbe, then that player needs to be a two way stud IMO
     
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    Nerlens Noel is the Center that I'm high on.
     
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    Without reading a single post, NO! Don't care that he's made the allstar team. I couldn't sit through even one blazers game watching that whiner and his ridiculous shooting form.
     
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    If you think his shooting form is ridiculous....
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