Exclusive Joe Cronin presser

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  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    My bad lol
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    This is as negative has Highkin has been lol.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's pretty much the truth, honestly.
     
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    Sometimes you have to take a risk. Part of the reason trades didn't happen was because the other teams were trying to get one over on Cronin. He allowed himself to be walked on his first few years here,regarding trades. Two of the same teams ( NO and LAC) tried to walk all over him again. I'm glad he didn't make a shitty trade, but wish we could have got a fair deal that put some help around Dame and made this team better.

    Instead, Dame gets alienated as we continue a youth movement because that's all we can manage. Dame may be on the out, and we will be headed to purgatory for the next half a decade at least only to try to get back to mediocrity once again. Yeah, it sucks.

    I'm not giving up on Dame. If he goes, I won't be happy. It will be a bad day to be a Blazer. I want him to win and to win here. If he goes, and I hope he doesn't I will root for him, while we pound sand.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    It is, but Highkin is the guy who I believe is most in tune with how the FO actually thinks, and gives the most balanced, un-emotional takes. He's generally quite optimistic about all scenarios. This one is a bit somber.
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That's not really want I'm saying.

    I'm saying that those fans are mourning what they think is the end of Dame's era here. I think that's why so many fans were so glum.

    With that said, I think if Dame DOES request a trade, it will come towards the end of the summer. He's going to want to see if Joe can do anything in free agency, or through trades.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I just don't see that. If Joe said, "I'm going to do everything I can do add significant pieces" and then he goes out and the offers just aren't there... how is that failing to be up front? Do you expect him to gut the team to make Dame happy? It takes two to tango. If the offers suck, what is Joe supposed to do? He did the only sure thing and that was adding a significant talent in Scoot Henderson.
     
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    This guy was Just on NBA radio and said people around Dames camp are not happy. Said Dame and his camp really wanted the Blazers to trade the pick for veteran help.
     
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    Personally, the only person this forum is treating like a somebody is Scoot Henderson. Why, I don't know. The somebody for me was Amen Thompson who will be a better player than Scoot and at a more desirable position that actually fits with an aging Dame and maturing Simons, Sharpe. He's the real nobody here.
     
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    The teams who could have helped us get better want us to fail so they can get a shot at Dame.

    That was a big part of the equation.
     
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    What if there were no fair deals and he had said no to all trades for that reason?

    I want Dame to win here badly, but I'd rather have that backup plan instead of waiting a decade to then rebuild (exaggerating a bit).
     
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    I don't get the "remaining assets" part. We just added 3 more, so why is he more somber today? He sounds like we gave assets up yesterday. Not saying we have enough to get a deal done, but we certainly haven't used any of them yet. Scoot is still a better asset than Miller. (Even though I like Miller)
     
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    Dame has 3 years left on his massive contract.
    The way some people phrase things, Dame has all the leverage. He doesn't. This is not an Anthony Davis situation.
    If he asks for a trade, there should be no rush to get it done.
    And what's Dame going to do? Sit on the bench like John Wall? That seems unlikely.
    Dame wants to win. I believe Cronin wants to win, but do it his way. I hope that way works out.
     
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    What I am saying is his record of being a carpet probably played into not getting a fair deal. Again, I am glad he didn't make a bad deal (i.e. trading Shaedon) just to make one.

    It's going to take a decade either way.
     
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    I'll go so far as to say I'm not sure you could feel good that any one of those other options even elevates the Blazers to within one more move of winning a championship. For me, that's kind of the bottom line. People talk about having resources, but the resources don't do anything for you if you just throw them out the window hoping something good will come back.
     
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    I'm missing something. You are glad that Cronin didn't make a bad deal but you think Dame's feels alienated (and maybe I've missed something because I haven't seen that reported reliably) because the Blazers didn't make a good deal that we can't presume existed.

    Also, if it's admirable to take risk in trade, why isn't it just as acceptable to take a risk and draft?

    One last thing: Let's say Cronin traded 3 and Ant for Siakam and entering March the Blazers still were 31-34. Do you think Dame would say "Well, they did what I wanted and it didn't work. Guess I'll play out the rest of my career here because they gave me what I wanted." A lot of people are making it sound like Dame had his mind made up based completely on whether we drafted at 3 or traded the 3 with absolutely no regard to what other dynamics were at play. I don't believe that. Contrary to what other posters interpret, I haven't seen anything from Dame to make that clear. But, if that is the case, Cronin was in a Catch-22 situation, and nothing he did would work unless everything from the magic trade of 3 made the Blazers the Nuggets overnight.
     
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    The 3rd pick we have is now much more valuable than what we were offered.
    I expect Bridges & Some within 48 hours.......
     
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    Yeah i mean who would have thought they would have taken Scoot?
     
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    Whether some in here agree with this or not, Dame is our MJ. He's family. It's different. He's like Elway in Denver. He's a part of our community. It's so much deeper for many of us than the average athlete that comes through. That's why this Draft , though being graded as great, has many around town in a melancholy state.

    I went through the Elway late years in Denver. I remember after the 1996 season Jacksonville loss in the playoffs , the feeling that it's over. Columnist said as much. Talk of trading Elway was in the newspapers. But the GM added pieces to the puzzle and Elway led the Broncos to Back to Back titles.


    It's what i want to happen here. But I'm hoping Dame is still all in, and understands a deal wasn't there to be made right now. You can't force a team to trade a player . Brooklyn said no from the reports out there.


    But adding more talent isn't a bad thing. There are some really good players out there that could further the development of this team now. Without breaking the bank. I'm trying to stay positive. But those who are 100% excited and in a great mood for what happened need to take a break on the rhetoric. Show a little heart , please.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Yeah....no.
     

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