Lieberman has no ideology except his ego. All he cares about is himself. He will absolutely fuck over the other Dems... just like he did during this campaign, when he repaid their generosity in backing his third party campaign in '06 against the actual Democrat who beat him in the actual Democratic primary in Connecticut by going all Zell Miller this year against Obama. I'm not a Democrat so I don't really care about how they manage (or mismanage) their caucus, but I have to say it does amaze me at how willing they are to cave into anyone who says "boo". The Dems in Congress are Charlie Brown trying to kick the football, perpetually mystified when Lucy (the GOP, Lieberman, whoever) pulls the ball away at the last minute and they fall on their ass in the mud. Again. SR
What would Republicans do if in the exact same situation? They'd summarily demote Lieberman without thinking twice about it. Why? Because, say what you will about them, Republicans like discipline. When you go off the reservation, you are putting your career in your own hands. Lieberman campaigned directly against Obama and a number of other Democrats. If the Dems don't impose some discipline for this, then what's to keep the next guy from doing the same thing? If they don't act against Lieberman they look just as feckless as they always have. Yet if they ignore all that and let Lieberman retain his position (which he's hardly used), that is somehow "change"? Whuh? "Change" is keeping the same guy in the same position despite him repeatedly stabbing you in the back? That's not change. That's just being an idiot. What would you do in this circumstance:
Well, I'm not a republican, but I would think they's do the same thing the dems are doing. Lieberman may be a turncoat, but he consistently votes with the dems. For the sake of votes, they will hang on to him. I'm sure rthe repubs would do the same.
Lieberman may very well be a lot of things, but he is in no way a liberal. He is in no way a Democrat. He has been a huge supporter of the Bush/Cheney Regime. What he is is a racist, sexist warmonger who serves only Israel, not America at all. His immediate absence from power of any kind would be a blessing on the Earth in general, and would strengthen our country considerably. He is the very last person I want in control of Homeland Security.
lol. Dean's a funny interview. I'm pretty pissed that the Dems are just going to turn the other cheek on this. I guess I appreciate the tone Obama is trying to set, but it just rubs me the wrong way.
He doesn't. When he has voted, he has voted with the Dems 86.9% of the times he voted. Most of that was fluff stuff. Procedural votes that mean nothing. On the other 13.1%, the real issues that change and/or end lives, he voted Republican 100% of the time. On anything important, like Iraq, protection from illegal eavesdropping, most anything having to do with individual freedom or basic rights of the individual he is a hard right-winger. His biggest threat is he wants to make America Israel's trained attack dog, and his goal is the genocide of Muslims everywhere. As long as someone is willing to kill Muslims, Joe Lieberman will support them.
Check his voting record. I even posted it on a diff thread. Sorry to report you're flat out wrong. He's a liberal who's been playing some screwy games.
Being socially liberal and a foreign policy conservative isn't a contridiction. In fact, it used to be called the Scoop Jackson wing of the Democratic Party. Too bad it's been pushed out by people who don't understand that the freedoms they want so badly have to be defended.
