Joe the Plumber isn't a plumber.

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  1. Minstrel

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    I believe "making $250K" means $250K net profits...i.e. after costs, like paying employees.

    Mind you, I'm not 100% certain on that, but I believe that's what I recall being reported about Obama's tax plan.
     
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    You are aware of how the lending industry, right? It's not like he'll just plunk down $250k for a business. And the rest of your post is way off base as well.

    Has anyone else ever been in a family that owned a small business? My Dad had over 20 employees and never brought home over $100k/year for himself.

    The ignorance is striking to me. Oh well, we'll all have to wake up soon enough.
     
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    Or watch any of the 1,580 videos his campaign has posted in youtube, or read any of his plans that he has put on his website, or watched the documentary on Obama that MSNBC did.

    When a guy has 2 autobiographies, 1,580 videos posted on his campaign's youtube channel, tons of plans posted on his website, and a documentry done by a major news network, you just ain't looking if you think Obama wasn't vetted.
     
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    Well given Joe only makes $40,000 a year, he should get a tax cut.

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    I disagree. I believe in flat taxes.
     
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    LOL

    His own book is "vetting" him? LMAO

    Hey, I think I'm great. I'm vetted!
     
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    How is Joe punished?

    If Joe can bring home 250K/yr, then yes he is punished. But Joe ain't bring home 250K/yr and his company isn't going to have net profits of over 250K . . . so what's Joe's complaint?

    Joe is stressed out on life, wants to buy a company he has no business running at a time banks aren't lending and needs to bitch about this to somebody. Joe has had his 15 minutes of fame, his time is done, now let's fix this country's problems.
     
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    He is punished because as his salary increases, he gets to take a smaller percentage of his money home. Who's to say he won't ever make $250k? The thing is, if he's being punished for making that much, why even try? Just become one with the masses of mediocre, in a socialist society where wages are the same, no one innovates and the means of production are controlled by the government.
     
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    Joe the Not-A-Plumber is a worthless, lazy POS, who tries to dodge responsibility in every phase of his life it seems.

    A traitor for not paying his taxes already, an illegal and unlicensed worker (despite taking taxpayer-funded schooling to get licensed) who will probably do a half-ass job on some old lady's plumbing and leave her with no toilet, and no legal recourse because he's unlicensed, uninsured, unbonded...

    McCain sure knows how to pick his team.
     
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    Sounds like he would thrive in a socialist culture, so maybe he should vote for Obama.
     
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    Obama went up to Joe.

    Joe asked him a question.

    Joe didn't ask for this 15 minutes of fame, and the media's reaction to him tells me Obama is in deep shit over his answer.
     
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    Aren't you exaggerating just a bit? Having progressive tax rates is not the same thing as everyone's wages being the same. The guy who makes $250K will still have more money than the guy who doesn't.

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    When you have a redistribution of wealth, eventually the system will lead to something on that plane. It may not be immediate, but the speed as to how fast this country became socialist is frightening.
     
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    Eh...bad wording. I don't mean he SHOULD get a tax cut, I mean he should be one of the people that get a tax cut under Obama's tax plan.
     
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    Substitute "Obama" for "Joe the Not-A-Plumber" and I wouldn't know the difference. Well, one difference is that "Joe the Not-A-Plumber" hasn't been suckling at government's teet to build a fortune for the last decade and a half.
     
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    Not everyone is committed to taking things to ridiculous extremes. Obama is not a Libertarian, after all.

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    Why?

    And why, if his business makes over $250k/year, should he pay more.

    What is he paying for?
     
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    How do you know?
     
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    You wouldn't, I guess.
    One difference: Obama has released his tax returns, so we know he's been paying taxes.

    Obama made most of his money selling the books you haven't read, not via his government jobs.

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