What no love for Payton Manning who runs the no huddle offense better than anyone. And is still at the top of his game at 37.
____________________________ If we're talking about Wilson, I said: I actually think he is underrated (as a QB) He doesn't have a weak arm - but he isn't exactly known for having a "big arm". Neither was Montana.
No issue with Montana and Brady. Not enough time yet for Wilson. Payton Manning is on my short list as are Elway, Favre and Roelesberger because they played/play with heart and guts. And frankly some other names that get lost in this shuffle are Jim Kelley (minus the 4 SB games), Troy Aikman and Warren Moon.
...Kelley and the Bills got a bad rap and were labeled by some as losers. But no other team has appeared in 4 consecutive SBs, and probably never will again.
____________________ I like Peyton, ALOT - he seems to be a great guy, no doubt - wonderful personality, his TV commercials are a joy, he can name his price if he ever became an NFL analyst/commentator - MAYBE THE GREATEST "ALL TIME" GREAT QB stats-wise - PROLIFIC ..... I love him, lol. ...his Super Bowl record/career leaves him off my "must win a BIG game" list. When I say need to win ONE game...I think you know what I'm talking about. lol
I never have and never will drink the Tom Brady Crying on the Sidelines after a S.B. Loss, over Joe Montana. Montana was gold.....Wilson is way to young to judge. Your right on the mark with Aaron Rodgers. Who makes most Pack Fans forget Favre. I guess you didn't see the Elway/Montana Charity Touch FB game, when Montana was approx. 48 yrs old, and hit Jerry Rice on a 60 yard pass, right into the end zone. Of course Flag is no comparison, yet passing a ball 180 feet, I'll take anytime. You might want to go back and watch Montana hand Elway and Reeves a SB A-Bomb, consistent attack, with Joe hitting Rice and Taylor on deep post routes, time and time again, splitting the Safeties, while tossing the pigskin a good 20 yards behind the Safeties set area(s). Don't want to get into a pissing contest over who the top 3 QB's were. Can't knock Unitas, Staubach, Morton, Dawson, Lamonica, Starr, Bradshaw, Theisman, Lynn Dickey, still a ton of others. Of course you said "modern day' of 30 years, lets go back further??? Slinging Sammy Baugh, Van Brocklin, and many others.Yet, in modern day only, (20 years), I'd love to kick Wilson and Carroll's ass. Brady is too over-hyped. I wouldn't feel jazzed to beat Brady, I'd expect to beat his ass every time I saw his face, or tears....! LOL...!
Yeah well than Eli is 2-0.....just saying. Look the proverbial ONE game in the NFL is always the last game of the season that is lost. Look at career records to last game played in a season.
^^^^no question for those 3. Favre had a hell of a tight spiral, and velocity. Elway of course. Mike Vick (falcons version) also threw a heck of a spiral.
Hey Tote, why would you have Favre on the short list, in lieu of Aaron Rodgers? You have seen the stats b/t the two gunslingers, after their 1st 100 games? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...dium=share&utm_campaign=web-des-art-top-25689 http://profootballspot.com/_/nfl/nf...dgers-and-brett-favres-first-100-starts-r5429
Rodgers isn't very exciting to watch. He's benefited from having good teams around him, made possible by the winning tradition Favre revitalized. Brett often was in a position where he had to manufacture things all too often. The MNF game after his father died vs Oakland (sorry to refreshen this game memory Ron) epitimized his gamesmanship. Brett played before the tuck rule and blow to the head/ roughing the passer kinder/gentler NFL. Rodgers, Brady and the Manning's benefit from rules changes that the old gun slingers didn't have protecting them.
The rule changes have allowed a lot of these QBs put up ridiculous numbers. At the same time it's also allowing receivers gather some crazy numbers as well. I think Rodgers for example is excellent but he also benefits from being able to just chuck balls to Jordy Nelson. That's why just looking at yardage numbers isn't all that meaningful.
Pass interference calls help receivers too. To their credit the "art of the one handed catch" is changing the game and widening the field.
epitimize ...wow, you brought up that damned "MNF game" AND the "tuck rule" in the same post? ...WTF?...that's just cold blooded...I'm surprised you didn't bring up "the immaculate reception".
