<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Smith isn't worth a lottery pick.</div> How dare you say that..... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> He's one-dimensional with no jumper, and would basically be a longer Keith Bogans. </div> I cannot believe Josh Smith was just compared with Keith Bogans......I have nothing to say....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tinyballer:</div><div class="quote_post"> Hawks need a point guard or center badily and there are good point guards in this draft so they could take a center with their pick and a pg with ours.</div> There are? From where i sit there is very little PG depth in this draft, with only one PG even being considered as a borderline top 10 pick (Foye). There will probably be 4-5 PG's drafted in the first round, most below pick 15, and very few of those are true PG's (most are combo guards). This is a tweener draft, it's extremely light on for PG talent. The Hawks are hardly going to give up a kid of Smith's quality to get another top 10 pick in a weak draft that is stacked full of what they already have (that being swingmen).
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> From where i sit there is very little PG depth in this draft, with only one PG even being considered as a borderline top 10 pick (Foye).</div> Marcus Williams?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">diaz? Jordan Farmar?</div> diaz is still very raw and i still question if he has ability to make it in the nba. he is athletic but he has to work on playmaking and passing skills. i dont know if farmer is even going to declare for the draft or not
PG talent= Rajon Rondo/Randy Foye/Mardy Collins all of which could be the long term poing guard answer for atlanta. Also these player's stock may look low now but once rondo does his atheletic tests his stocks will rise.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">He's one-dimensional with no jumper, and would basically be a longer Keith Bogans</div> I don't think Josh Smith will become the player that T-Mac is, but I don't think he should be compared to Keith Bogans. As much as I like Bogans, Smith is much better. He is one of the league leaders in blocks, and he can actually finish around the basket, which is something Bogans has had trouble with. FT shooting is also another advantage Smith has over Bogans. I've always liked Josh Smith and would love to have him on the Rockets. I say trade for him and the other Smith, JR, and we would have two very young and athlethic players. The Rockets do not necessarily need a lot of 3 pt shooters. When teams double Yao, we should also be cutting to the basket. I like Swift for the one reason that he'll actually cut to the basket and make himself available for a pass from Yao. Even if Yao is not doubled, the Rocket players should be driving more. I've noticed that when Yao is battling for position, he usually takes the opposing center out of the play to block any drive to the basket. If you go back to the T-Mac dunk on Bradley last year, you'll see that Bradley never got off the floor because he was preoccupied by Yao. T-Mac might have dunked on him anyway if Bradley jumped, but there have been times in this season where players have had relatively easy drives to the basket because the opposing center was battling Yao. Anyway, if I could say that anyone reminds me of Mcgrady, it would have to be Gerald Green, rookie for the Celtics. He is extremely athlethic and he has that same relaxed, laid-back look. I have not seen him play enough to judge whether he'll develop into an offensive force like Tracy, but he reminds me of him.
I agree with what eva said about JR and Josh Smith fitting into the system that we have. Plus the point about cutters excellent post. They both also are showing signs of being able to knock down the three also so if we could get them its a plus. The problem that we have with shooting is that we got some so called three point specialists that can't knock down shots so they bascially take a lot of shots that they don't make. Plus if we get more atheletism we could end up being an even defensive team with much more ability to block and play the passing lanes as well as press leading to easy buckets.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phiLA:</div><div class="quote_post">diaz is still very raw and i still question if he has ability to make it in the nba. he is athletic but he has to work on playmaking and passing skills. i dont know if farmer is even going to declare for the draft or not</div> Espn reported and so did a california newspaper that Farmar and Afflalo(Im not sure thats his name) will be testing the nba.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Marcus Williams?</div> He's projected to go between 15 and 20 in most mock drafts. Certainly not a lock for the bottom of the lottery, and certainly not someone Atlanta would trade Josh Smith to get. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">diaz? Jordan Farmar?</div> Diaz is projected to be an early to mid second round pick, nowhere near a lottery pick. As for Farmar, he's pretty much certain to wait until next year. The fact that an undersized combo guard in Diaz has been mentioned as proof that this draft has PG talent shows that it doesn't, the depth of PG's is as weak as it's been since 2002. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tinyballer:</div><div class="quote_post">PG talent= Rajon Rondo/Randy Foye/Mardy Collins all of which could be the long term poing guard answer for atlanta. Also these player's stock may look low now but once rondo does his atheletic tests his stocks will rise.</div> All three will go between 10 and 25. That's hardly proof that there's a lot of PG talent in the draft, and Atlanta are hardly going to trade for another lottery pick to take a guy who is likely to go outside the lottery. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">Espn reported and so did a california newspaper that Farmar and Afflalo(Im not sure thats his name) will be testing the nba.</div> I would be shocked if Farmar came out, given he'd be borderline lottery, if that. Afflalo is a class two guard, not even close to being a PG. [red]Please use the 'edit' button. ~Locke[/red]
Farmar borderlone lottery? He was the only guy who showed up in the title game and he reminds me a lot of Deron Williams for some reason. Randy Foye is for sure a lottery pick and Marcus Williams may end up being the best of the bunch.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">Farmar borderlone lottery? He was the only guy who showed up in the title game and he reminds me a lot of Deron Williams for some reason. </div> Farmar will be a lottery pick next season, this season he wouldn't be in my view. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post"> Randy Foye is for sure a lottery pick and Marcus Williams may end up being the best of the bunch. </div> For sure? Based on what? Most predictions have him about 10, some as low as 14. Bottom line, you've listed three PG's. One is likely to not even come out, one is ranked about 10th and the other about 15th. Hardly a lot of good PG talent, and hardly enough for Atlanta to trade Smith to get a shot at these guys
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Who? Smith is a 6-7 RPG, 2 BPG SF. The only other SF's in the league that do that are Gerald Wallace and AK47. Pretty good company wouldn't you say? He's only 20 and has got tons of potential. I'll take Smith over a #11 pick in this draft. (where the Rockets are currently).</div> Smith can dunk the ball really really good, but everything else goes down hill. If your gonna compare somebody to Tmac, atleast get somebody with something that atleast resembles a jumpshot.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Smith can dunk the ball really really good, but everything else goes down hill. If your gonna compare somebody to Tmac, atleast get somebody with something that atleast resembles a jumpshot. </div> apparently smith has improved his shooting recently. He can shoot well beyond the ark now. But im judging this based only from the boxscore. I rarely saw him play
We'll see about those PG's when the pre-draft camps are over but if Marcus Williams leaves I think he will be a top 10 pick. Foye's performance during the season shows how good of a player he is gettin Nova that 1 seed and all the way to the Elite 8 and also 10-14 is still a lottery player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting whatever:</div><div class="quote_post">apparently smith has improved his shooting recently. He can shoot well beyond the ark now. But im judging this based only from the boxscore. I rarely saw him play</div> Well boxscore isn't always a good idea to base your idea on but fortunately for you he has improved his shooting somewhat. He can do more than dunk, he is like a Gerald Wallace that can shoot.
you guys are crazy if you think a #11 pick in this years draft is worthy of Josh Smith. He's young and its obvious he's still improving his game. The kid could be real good if given the right situation. this draft is looking very weak, and i agree with another poster...if Josh Smith were in this draft he'd be #1 without question.
IMO Gerald Green is a wayyyyy betterrr T-mac comparison than Josh Smith. Green just doesnt get the chance to play as much as Smith, but will become a much more all-round and great player.
