I doubt Golden State goes for that one. Turiaf is one of the only players on that team who gives a consistent effort every night, and should be one of the last players they move. Philly gets absolutely fleeced on the second one. Larry Hughes is a negative with all of his pouting, and his contract which he clearly does not deserve. Elton Brand has only been signed for half a season, there's no way they trade him away for what amounts to capspace and junk. (Yes, Sergio is junk) By the way, where are the rumors?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeWatchBigs-090129 You're right, in terms of talent the Sixers wouldn't be getting much in return, but they would clear Brand's contract off their books, and Miller is a free agent this summer anyway. They get Sergio, which isn't much, but he could fill the gap, and they would get some decent cap space from LaFrentz this summer and then Hughes the next summer.
20% isn't that great. It's still a terrible deal. No matter how you want to look at it, you just don't trade a 20/10 guy like Brand (Yes, he's still a 20/10 guy) for capspace. Plus, even if they did, some other team would be willing to offer more and Philly also wouldn't have to give up Andre Miller. A team like Miami could offer Shawn Marion in a one on one swap. Miami gets their big man and Philly gets TWO big expiring contracts. (Miller and Marion) The deal you proposed is just so lopsided in Chicago and Portland's favor that I cannot fathom why Philly would consider, even if they were absolutely adamant on ridding themselves of Elton Brand. They are still in the play-off hunt, why would they blow up their team?
They're in the playoff hunt without Brand. He is just coming back from an injury. Miller is a free agent. They will probably let him go anyway this summer. If you trade Brand, they have 24 million coming off the books THIS summer, and then another 12 million coming off next summer with Hughes expiring. If they sat on that space until 2010, they could sign two top free agents to play with Iggy and Thad. How about Bosh and LeBron? Or Bosh and Wade? You're right. It's a lot of talent going out, but they're getting a lot of expiring deals in return, and Philly is a large market for someone like LeBron to play in. I'm just having some fun with a rumor that was reported on ESPN.
First off, I think the free agency 2010 has been blown out of proportion. Secondly, if they ABSOLUTELY wanted to get rid of Brand, why not just trade him for a huge expiring THIS off-season? The rumor says that they are willing to trade him for an expiring and a first (which I highly doubt), so let's assume they trade him and a small filler like Kareem Rush for Marion and a 1st. They would have 30+ million dollars in expirings for this offseason. Then they can just stay pat until 2010 and sign a good free agent. If they did your deal, they would also have to pay an extra 12 million dollars to Larry Hughes. Yuck. There's zero, and I mean, zero, incentive to do your deal. BTW, in your deal, they would have around 17 million in expiring, not 24 million, you added in Andre Miller's expiring contract even though they traded him for Larry Hughes.
You mean like... oh.... say...... Raef LaFrentz? You're right, I forgot that Miller was in on the deal, but that's still a huge chunk of cap space off with LaFrentz and Hughes in 2010. There aren't that many decent free agents this summer. 2010 is the year, and they already have some solid pieces that they could pair with Bosh, LeBron, or Wade. Miller is a free agent this summer. They trade him essentially for Hughes, who isn't a good player anymore, but his 12 million comes off for the 2010 free agent extravaganza. You know what dude, I didn't make up the rumor. I'm just going off what I read. Brand for an expiring and a draft pick. Would the Sixers give up Miller? Maybe not, but he's a free agent anyway, so they might lose him for nothing.
I really don't know what's wrong with letting Miller expire THIS offseason, not sign anyone, and stand pat until 2010 to sign a free agent. This is because they won't need to sign anyone this off season, and can just stay under the cap until 2010. With your deal, they have to pay Hughes an extra 12 million, end of story. That's just not necessary.
Jason Quick said a SF was added as a sweetener. Butler, Deng, Jefferson, ect. are more than sweeteners. Marvin Williams fits that bill of a sweetener, IMO.
I don't think he said it was a small forward was added as a sweetener... I think he said the trade centered around someone that was on our radar before, and that another player was added as a sweetener.
Kirk Hinrich is somebody we tried to trade for 2 years ago but was rebuffed as he was labeled untouchable. Obviously his value has took a nose dive since then. He's looked solid since coming back from his injury but I don't think he's an upgrade over Blake at all. He's not the Kirk Hinrich of 2-3 years ago. Who else have we had interest in?
hard to say... we've had interest in a lot of people over the years. We need more intel on this rumor.
Does anyone not think that Bibby would be a significant upgrade over Blake? I find that hard to believe.... Bibby still has 3-4 good years left in him IMO...More than enough to bridge the gap to the next PG...and I think Marvin Williams is as good or better than Travis Outlaw now, and he is 2? years younger with a lot more potential to grow..... I don't see a trade with ATL as a status quo trade at all...It makes POR better now and better down the road...
How about Kopono? a deal with Calderon and Kopono would be pretty sweet imo. EDIT or how about a 3-team deal like this.... http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...15&teams=28~28~28~28~22~22~28~22~27&te=&cash= gee, this is fun messing around with ridiculous trades...
Hmm.... interesting... I didn't think about Toronto. Was Calderon ever on our radar? I don't think they'd trade Calderon after giving up TJ Ford. I don't understand why Toronto wants to trade O'neal.... this is his last year, no? That's a nice chunk of expiring change.
O'Neal has two years left, 23 million each. Don't want Kapono. Terrible defender, bad team player, horrible contract. He's just a standstill jumpshooter.
I dont know about that. ESPN Trade machine says Oneal is an expiring 21m dollar contract... maybe its a player or team option? EDIT: Chad Ford's "Most likely Big Men to be traded" article says hes a 2 year contract, too. So i don't know why the ESPN trade machine says he's expiring. I assumed he was expiring, perhaps not.
Meh. That's what I was wondering. The trade machine had him listed as one year. I would be willing to take Jermaine off their hands if we could get Calderon in the process, but that's so much salary, it would take half our team just to match it.
It's probably because O'Neals 2nd year is a Player Option. Theres no way in hell he doesnt pick up his option though
