In a couple years I think he'll be elite around the rim... but right now it's hard to watch his out-of-control shots. But, he's shown that he CAN be under control at times, and that's all I'm basing my future prognostication on... the eye test.
I found this: Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings (although Oliver notes that history's best defensive teams were generally anchored by dominant defensive big men, suggesting that those types of players are the most important to a team's defensive success). A corollary to this is that excellent perimeter defenders who don't steal the ball a lot — for instance, Joe Dumars or Doug Christie — are underrated defensively by DRtg, and are prone to look only as good as their team's overall defense performs.
Nurk might be looking fairly bad on offense right now, but his defense is damn good. I think his offense will come around as well. Last year he just bulldozed people with his 300 lb frame. He needs to get used to playing at a lighter weight.
I don't really care about his defensive stats. He passes the eye test. A lot of the stats has to do with the Blazers being an elite defensive team this year. Dame is 15 in DWS this year, Nurk 18: https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2018_leaders.html (Nurk is 3rd in DRTG here) Don't really think Dame is a top 15 defender, even if he's not as much of a liability this year.
individual DRTG are affected by team defense, so theres your answer about Dames DRTG (read my post up there) tomorrow Ill find precise stats on Nurk through the filters and see where he ranks right know
Yes, I mentioned that a lot of the defensive stats are because the Blazers are an elite defensive team this year. I don't think it's any one person, but I do think Nurk is the best defender on the team.
well yes (speaking of Nurk), here you go (second paragraph): Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings (although Oliver notes that history's best defensive teams were generally anchored by dominant defensive big men, suggesting that those types of players are the most important to a team's defensive success). A corollary to this is that excellent perimeter defenders who don't steal the ball a lot — for instance, Joe Dumars or Doug Christie — are underrated defensively by DRtg, and are prone to look only as good as their team's overall defense performs.
I filtered some datas to get the best possible image about Nurk defense and here you have it: LINK 1 - Rim Protection Nurk ranks 3rd in the Rim Protection (Elite Rim Protector) as you can see when you open the link, I included next datas: - only C - starters - games played (at least 20) - minutes played per game (25) - at least 4 DFGA (field goals defended at the rim attempted) LINK 2 - Overall Defense Nurk ranks 12th in the Overall Defense in the NBA as you can see when you open the link, I included next datas: - only C - starters - games played (at least 20) - at least 10 DFGA (including both rim and perimeter defense) LINK 3 - Individual DEFRT (Defensive Rating) Nurk ranks 3rd among C in DEFRTG Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute. Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings (although Oliver notes that history's best defensive teams were generally anchored by dominant defensive big men, suggesting that those types of players are the most important to a team's defensive success). A corollary to this is that excellent perimeter defenders who don't steal the ball a lot — for instance, Joe Dumars or Doug Christie — are underrated defensively by DRtg, and are prone to look only as good as their team's overall defense performs. LINK 4 - Team DEFRTG (Defensive Rating) Portland Trail Blazers rank 5th in the DEFRTG (Nurk is the main reason for this success)
Can't imagine he gets anywhere close to max, if we paid him that the its worse than any of the awful contracts in the dreaded "summer of 16", he's not showing he's improving at all in the areas we need to see from here
hell get max contract, deal with it if you have problem with that, you can always want POR to bring some other C
