His low ratings are probably in part because of quotes like this. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda - worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.</div> That's in the November 07 issue of Playboy. Link Talk about "worst person in the world."
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 19 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Two best shows on Fox, IMO, are Shep and Hume.</div> I'll give Sheppard Smith a pass as I've heard he's a Dolphins fan. Brit Hume? I wondered where Sam the Eagle went after the Muppet Show went off the air.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Mar 19 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>His low ratings are probably in part because of quotes like this. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda - worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.</div> That's in the November 07 issue of Playboy. Link Talk about "worst person in the world." </div> Let's see. Today is the 5 yr anniversary of the invasion of Iraq yet Limbaugh & the Cheerleaders on Faux Noise would rather try & generate contorversy about Obama. Further, in an interview w/ ABC, Dick Cheney said he doesn't care what the American people think about the War and FNC is all he'll watch. Is there some coincedence or have I read too many Robert Ludlum Novels? rofl??
KO gave himself the bronze last night for calling for the resignation of the editor at the NY Times who allowed Bill Kristol to publish lies. In contrast, O'Reilly would never cowboy up & admit a mistake. For example, BillO goes off and tries to "explain" Spitzer's actions like Andrea Mackris was a figment KO's imagination or Billy was subconciously trying to justify his own stupidity. A major difference is KO's interaction w/ guests & other journalists. He does not badger his guests & his questions are concise & thoughtfulare not meant to generate a sh**storm. Most of the time they are not. Dana Milbank & Eugene Robinson know their stuff and gets right down the nuts & bolts. My favorite guests are Michael Musto and the Joel McHale from E! I said earlier in this thread that yes KO is hard to take sometime. But, I also pointed out this is Cable News and analysis and is just one persons opinion; its just a matter of what floats your boat.
Olberman hand picks his guests to skew the story. Geez. No wonder you get the perception he doesn't badger them. Hume is a newsman with a real background in news. Used to work the White House for ABC News, among other things. His show is an hour, 45 minutes of which is pure news. The other 15 minutes has... you know, Mara Liason and Juan Williams - both from NPR (hardly a right-wing kind of outlet).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 19 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Olberman hand picks his guests to skew the story. Geez. No wonder you get the perception he doesn't badger them. Hume is a newsman with a real background in news. Used to work the White House for ABC News, among other things. His show is an hour, 45 minutes of which is pure news. The other 15 minutes has... you know, Mara Liason and Juan Williams - both from NPR (hardly a right-wing kind of outlet).</div> What Talking head doesn't pick his guests? Hmmmmmmmmm!? I can guarantee you those divas (O'Reilly & Hannity do) so do Glenn Beck, Larry Kudlow, Lou Dobbs, Jim Cramer, Erin Burnett & Mark Haines, etc... KO is to be penalized because he treats people w/ respect? Right. Sorry. This is cable news.... my bad. lol. I'd rather watch Keith & Rachel Maddow sarcastically trash politicians than BillO claim he's just watching out for the folks. Truthfully, Kudlow is the only talking head that is both informative and where civil conversation is the rule rather than exception. Even Glenn Beck who I can't stand is more courteous towards guests than the aforementioned divas on FNC. So, Brit came from ABC arguably the most liberal of the networks. Olbermann has a degree in journalism from Cornell and was the driving force behind ESPN2 & ESPN Radio. He and Dan P are indirectly responsible for the This is SportsCenter ads. Your point is...............?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ Mar 20 2008, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Mar 19 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Olberman hand picks his guests to skew the story. Geez. No wonder you get the perception he doesn't badger them. Hume is a newsman with a real background in news. Used to work the White House for ABC News, among other things. His show is an hour, 45 minutes of which is pure news. The other 15 minutes has... you know, Mara Liason and Juan Williams - both from NPR (hardly a right-wing kind of outlet).</div> What Talking head doesn't pick his guests? Hmmmmmmmmm!? I can guarantee you those divas (O'Reilly & Hannity do) so do Glenn Beck, Larry Kudlow, Lou Dobbs, Jim Cramer, Erin Burnett & Mark Haines, etc... KO is to be penalized because he treats people w/ respect? Right. Sorry. This is cable news.... my bad. lol. I'd rather watch Keith & Rachel Maddow sarcastically trash politicians than BillO claim he's just watching out for the folks. Truthfully, Kudlow is the only talking head that is both informative and where civil conversation is the rule rather than exception. Even Glenn Beck who I can't stand is more courteous towards guests than the aforementioned divas on FNC. So, Brit came from ABC arguably the most liberal of the networks. Olbermann has a degree in journalism from Cornell and was the driving force behind ESPN2 & ESPN Radio. He and Dan P are indirectly responsible for the This is SportsCenter ads. Your point is...............? </div> I didn't say "pick his guests" - I said "pick his guests to skew the story." Big difference. Maybe there's something to having guests who you don't argue with, but Fox, CNN, and other MSNBC shows do have guests who don't agree with the host. Like Jesse Jackson on O'Reilly's show, or Ari Fleisher on CNN. The point is, Oblerman wants to show there are indeed homeless vets. He gets a guest who supposedly filmed homeless vets. Nobody there from the VA for any kind of balance. As for Hume, he was recruited to run Fox's news dept. He's an actual news guy, not a sports anchor. From his bio: With more than 35 years of journalism experience to draw from, Brit Hume is FOX News’ Washington, D.C. managing editor. Hume serves as anchor of "Special Report with Brit Hume," the highest rated political program on cable television, which airs weekdays on FOX News Channel (FNC) from 6-7 p.m. ET. He also serves as a regular panelist on FOX’s weekly public affairs program, "FOX News Sunday." In addition to covering major political stories, elections and contributing news analysis to FOX News Channel, Hume is responsible for overseeing news content for FOX News' Washington, D.C. bureau. Before joining FOX News in 1996, Hume was with ABC News for 23 years, serving as chief White House correspondent from 1989 through 1996. During his tenure, he contributed to "World News Tonight with Peter Jennings," "Nightline" and "This Week" as well as various specials for the news division. Hume joined ABC in 1973 as a consultant for the network’s documentary division and was named a Washington correspondent in 1976. He was later promoted to Capitol Hill correspondent and reported on Congress until 1988. Earlier, Hume reported for United Press International (UPI.) He began his career as a newspaper reporter with The Hartford Times and the Baltimore Evening Sun. /**/ Hume has received numerous honors and awards, including the 2003 Sol Taishoff Award for Excellence in Broadcast Journalism from the National Press Foundation. He also received a 1991 Emmy Award for his coverage of the Gulf War and was twice named "The Best in the Business" by the American Journalism Review for his extensive news coverage of the White House. Hume is the author of two books; "Inside Story" and "Death and the Mines." A graduate of the University of Virginia, Hume resides in Washington, D.C., with his wife Kim Schiller Hume.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ Mar 19 2008, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Mar 19 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>His low ratings are probably in part because of quotes like this. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda - worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.</div> That's in the November 07 issue of Playboy. Link Talk about "worst person in the world." </div> Let's see. Today is the 5 yr anniversary of the invasion of Iraq yet Limbaugh & the Cheerleaders on Faux Noise would rather try & generate contorversy about Obama. Further, in an interview w/ ABC, Dick Cheney said he doesn't care what the American people think about the War and FNC is all he'll watch. Is there some coincedence or have I read too many Robert Ludlum Novels? rofl?? </div> You didn't directly adress my quote. I wonder why...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda - worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>You didn't directly adress my quote. I wonder why...</div> Why? Its <u>my opinion that Keith is right about Rupert & FNC</u>. They mislabeled or misrepresented party affiliations of Foley & Larry Craig. Not to mention O'Reilly & Malmedy . Further, Bill's war on war on Christmas. His Culture warrior crap you know Secular-progressives are bad, etc... The pithiest thing Keith ever said about Forced noise is the magic# there is 70. The viewers are either 70+ yrs old or their IQ's are below said number. Say what you will about KO & MSNBC; FNC w/ Geraldo, Oliver North, and the beltway boys are much worse. We could all go on chasing our tails yet no one would alter their perception. So, why continue? I won't.
KO's one big flaw IMO is that he is a Yankees fan. One last thought; I am not going to take it too seriously (go back to the last sentence of post 25). Countdown, for me, is more of catharsis than anything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ Mar 22 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda - worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>You didn't directly adress my quote. I wonder why...</div> Why? Its <u>my opinion that Keith is right about Rupert & FNC</u>. They mislabeled or misrepresented party affiliations of Foley & Larry Craig. Not to mention O'Reilly & Malmedy . Further, Bill's war on war on Christmas. His Culture warrior crap you know Secular-progressives are bad, etc... The pithiest thing Keith ever said about Forced noise is the magic# there is 70. The viewers are either 70+ yrs old or their IQ's are below said number. Say what you will about KO & MSNBC; FNC w/ Geraldo, Oliver North, and the beltway boys are much worse. We could all go on chasing our tails yet no one would alter their perception. So, why continue? I won't. </div> Glenn Beck made this point, and he's absolutely correct. Countdown with Keith Olbermann is not modeled as an opinion format like O'Reilly or Beck, it's modeled as a newscast. That in inself is a problem for obvious reasons. BTW, for the record. My political views are pretty evident on this forum. I watch NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams every night. I'm a big Chris Matthews fan. I like Tim Russert. I like the fact David Gregory finally got his own show. I watch MSNBC more than the other networks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>Glenn Beck made this point, and he's absolutely correct. Countdown with Keith Olbermann is not modeled as an opinion format like O'Reilly or Beck, it's modeled as a newscast. That in inself is a problem for obvious reasons. BTW, for the record. My political views are pretty evident on this forum. I watch NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams every night. I'm a big Chris Matthews fan. I like Tim Russert. I like the fact David Gregory finally got his own show. I watch MSNBC more than the other networks.</div> It would be the 1st time Beck ever been correct. Perhaps, how its modeled may be trouble to some however it is news analysis & commentary. All you have to do is look at the style. Further, KO has had Stewie Griffin do voice overs as well as Yeardley Smith & Harry Shearer (both from the Simpsons) on to discuss current events. I am not saying that their 2 cents aren't valid but gives an indication of the alleged seriousness of this program. It doesn't mean Countdown is <u>Laugh In</u> reincarnated but as I like to say there is at least an ounce in every pound of sarcasm. In a cruel twist of irony, Real, you watch MSNBC more than I do. When I'm home during the day, I flip back and forth between Headline News & CNBC. FWIW; I start the day flipping back and forth between Headline News & CNBC.... Robin Meade & Erin Burnett are great eye openers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ Mar 24 2008, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'>Glenn Beck made this point, and he's absolutely correct. Countdown with Keith Olbermann is not modeled as an opinion format like O'Reilly or Beck, it's modeled as a newscast. That in inself is a problem for obvious reasons. BTW, for the record. My political views are pretty evident on this forum. I watch NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams every night. I'm a big Chris Matthews fan. I like Tim Russert. I like the fact David Gregory finally got his own show. I watch MSNBC more than the other networks.</div></div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It would be the 1st time Beck ever been correct.</div> That's not true. He was right here too. Link <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Perhaps, how its modeled may be trouble to some however it is news analysis & commentary. All you have to do is look at the style. Further, KO has had Stewie Griffin do voice overs as well as Yeardley Smith & Harry Shearer (both from the Simpsons) on to discuss current events. I am not saying that their 2 cents aren't valid but gives an indication of the alleged seriousness of this program. It doesn't mean Countdown is <u>Laugh In</u> reincarnated but as I like to say there is at least an ounce in every pound of sarcasm.</div> Sarcasm is part of it, but most of it is his views disguised in a newscast format. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In a cruel twist of irony, Real, you watch MSNBC more than I do. When I'm home during the day, I flip back and forth between Headline News & CNBC. FWIW; I start the day flipping back and forth between Headline News & CNBC.... Robin Meade & Erin Burnett are great eye openers. </div> I keep looking for that missing "This thread is worthless without pics" smiley that was on a different site I used to be a part of, but I couldn't find it.
<div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xmIHHCQKUSY&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xmIHHCQKUSY&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div> Chris Wallace on Olbermann, RE: Olbermann's "journalistic" credentials.
The same Chris Wallace who Shanghai'd Bill Clinton which ironically was before BC's interview w/ KO. Re post #35: Not the best photo that I've seen of Erin Burnett.
And now for something completely different..... well not entirely. The Iraq war has been going on for 5 yrs and Countdown has been on for 5 yrs. MSNBC is owned by GE who has profited from the war. Coincedence? Irony? Whatever it is I love it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ Mar 26 2008, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The same Chris Wallace who Shanghai'd Bill Clinton which ironically was before BC's interview w/ KO. Re post #35: Not the best photo that I've seen of Erin Burnett.</div> FWIW, Chris Wallace is a registered democrat. Not that it matters. What he said has nothing to do with partisanship as much as it has to do with the fact Olbermann's an opinion format disguised as a newscast, which is misleading. He also often distorts facts, as Wallace was saying in that previous clip, and in this clip... <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fxPkq8TCOJ8&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fxPkq8TCOJ8&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div> And suprise! It didn't come from "Faux News," it came from his own MSNBC colleague Joe Scarborough.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ Mar 26 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The same Chris Wallace who Shanghai'd Bill Clinton which ironically was before BC's interview w/ KO. Re post #35: Not the best photo that I've seen of Erin Burnett.</div> <object classid="clsid27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" width="390" height="320" id="Redlasso"><param name="movie" value="http://media.redlasso.com/xdrive/WEB/vidplayer_1b/redlasso_player_b1b_deploy.swf" /><param name="flashvars" value="embedId=b9797761-37d1-4b7d-8d27-d72bb37e5516" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><embed src="http://media.redlasso.com/xdrive/WEB/vidplayer_1b/redlasso_player_b1b_deploy.swf" flashvars="embedId=b9797761-37d1-4b7d-8d27-d72bb37e5516" width="390" height="320" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowScriptAccess="always" allowFullScreen="true" name="Redlasso"></embed></object>
