Kenny Vance: Devin Harris rumor (deal on the table)???

That's the problem. OTOH, yours is an argument why they don't need Harris either.

 

Understatement of the week.

 

This acutally works better as a 3-way

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=275vbga

 

The dude hasn't shot over 30% the last 2 years from 3, has injury concerns, and somehow managed to regress last year despite being the man on a historically awful New Jersey team. No thanks. Not exactly the missing piece.

 

Chris Paul sucks! According to your link, we lose 5 more games next year and miss the playoffs!

 

In evaluating pretty much every trade, I look at it through the prism of "How does it affect Greg Oden", because everybody agrees our only chance at ever beating the unholy trinity in Miami is in developing a dominating superstar center.

I think Miller will do a better job of getting Oden involved in the offense. He's simply a far superior, smarter passer. I'm thinking there's going to be one or two plays a night that will be in contention for Sportscenter highlights.

However, Harris is a vastly superior defender. He's a guy who can contain dribble penetration, which is what leads to Oden picking up cheap fouls.

At this point, I just want Oden out on the floor as much as possible. He (and Roy) can create offense on the fly for himself. The important thing is having him in there anchoring our defense and rebounding this year.

So even if you disregard the enormous age gap between Miller and Harris, Harris would be a really nice upgrade for this team.

 

If you don't understand, I suggest you seek professional help.

At a minimum, halve pity on your fellow boarders. No one likes to hear the incessant wailings of a tortured soul.

 

Harris' numbers his last year in Dallas would be a better indication of how he'd fit on the Blazers imo.

That said, I was a huge Devin Harris fan at one point, and remember Tony Parker thanking the Mavericks for trading him because Devin Harris used to torch the Spurs in the playoffs. That was when he was still a relatively a new player in the NBA as well. His 2nd season I believe.

Not sure how much of an upgrade he'd be over Miller(probably better man defense), but at least he's younger and could be part of the team moving forward. This is without a doubt Miller's last season with the team.

 

K .

 

Welcome to the dark side my apprentice.

Matthews: Wouldn't they wait for that to be official to make certain we have a back up SG before trading Rudy etc?

Thats why IMO they had to wait.

 

As for Harris' crappy shooting--he didn't take 3.5 three pointers a night because the thought he was good at them. He took them because that team fucking sucked. Whenever I saw them play it was desperation possession after desperation possession. Harris gets a flaming-bag-of-crap pass with 1 second on the clock, and he's going to have to heave it.

He'll probably always be a crappy three point shooter, but we can definitely reign him in on taking those shots. If you take those out of the equation, suddenly he's a pretty efficient shooter.

 

I think Williams was taken for POR not for another team....and it likely means that Bayless is gone along with Rudy.....

Maybe a Przybilla, Rudy & Bayless for Devin Harris....

NJ gets a b\u big for Lopez, that has an expiring contract as well, a young PG\SG in Bayless to compete for PG\SG minutes with recently signed Jordan Farmar and Terrence Williams....and Rudy as a throw in who goes to a big market he wanted and under an owner, Prokhorov, who has a euroleague background and likely some familiarity with him....fits into his "global brand" that he mentioned....

Harris wasn't happy last year, has a big deal with 3 years left....they could totally unload his salary by not picking up Przybilla, and they get 2 young guys in Bayless\Rudy, and position themselves to make a run at some FA next year perhaps? and also, Thorn isn't there to block the deal ths time.....

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing this blown up into a bigger deal including LA and Favors.....that is if NJ decided to spend thier "future" capspace now on LA's contract which looks better after the recent signings....

 

I was thinking the same thing about LMA and Favors before I watched Favors in the Orlando summer league. Favors just looked terrible. He just didn't look right to me. I know he is young but he just looked like a bust written all over him.

 

Maybe- I, like so many, did not watch New Jersey last year. And playing on a team like New Jersey must have been such a demoralizing, soul-sucking humiliation that it must have had some effect on his game. But Miller is efficient too, for a PG, and we don't have to make assumptions and magically dismiss a part of his game from the equation to realize that.

Your point about him being a better perimeter defender which would help Oden is the best reason I've read as to why he might be an upgrade. However if he's hurt, and judging from his last four years in the league this is a likely scenario, then his defensive ability won't really help much. Our backup PG position is so weak right now the thought of our starter going down is pretty unpleasant.

 

This team is NOT at a point where it needs to trade proven for unproven, especially with bigs.

 

I agree but read about a rumor at the draft we were offered trading LMA for Harris and the #3 pick which would be Favors. I think that was the rumor. I can't remember if there was more to it.