I don’t think it was a coincidence that the same people that jumped on Keon are the same that hated the clippers trade. Confirmation bias.
Most likely. Although I admittedly hated the Clippers trade to start with. I've definitely come around on it, however.
From what I've seen, I think Johnson has a chance to be a rotation player on a pretty good team. I actually think he has a better than average chance to be that.
Well you’d hope if you give up two starting caliber players that were playoff starters last year you’d at the very least receive back a player who has a sliver of hope of becoming a solid player?
Keon becoming a legit NBA player is irrelevant to the feelings folks have that Portland did not receive proper value in exchange for their outgoing assets. These two things are not mutually exclusive.
Acrually, you have that one backwards chief. It doesn’t matter what people thought or felt about the trade. All that matters is what actually happens after it. They clearly valued Keon. If he develops into a good player, their evaluation was correct and the value was proper. It’s been established that the success or failure of the trade was largely gonna hinge on his development.
I agree that the only thing we have now is our present situation but I think a lot of us want both for the horrible moves to benefit us as much as possible and for Cronin to be held accountable for sending out so much more value in trades this season than he brought in.
Well, duh. Pretty obvious there. There are other potential assets here, as well, like the TPE (though, I'm sure most of us assume we won't do much with it given our team's history in using TPE's). I actually was split on the deal and didn't care for it, but didn't hate it, either. We were a middling roster. The team took a big swing. In the end.... my post wasn't expressing my actual thoughts on the deal, though. I was expressing my interpretation of folks' feelings on the deal. Some people are saying if you don't like the deal, you don't like Keon. And that isn't necessarily reality. You can like Keon and still not like the deal. You can feel like he's a young asset that at this moment might not be the ideal to put around Dame and Dame's timeline. For all we know, the team might try to build up his value and deal him again. I liked Dale Davis when we acquired him. I hated the actual deal from the minute it was announced. Doesn't change that I liked Dale. But I still thought it was a horrific deal (and time proved that correct). That's my point about the two things not being mutually exclusive.
I do see some talent there, but actually like the prospects of Williams more. If we could combine the talents, and size of both, we'd really have something. It's just too early. But Williams looks more ready now, IMO.
I like both of them, but Williams pretty much has to score/shoot well to be more than a backup. If Keon develops properly he could still be a starter without necessarily being a scorer.
keon fg% (35.7%) is really bad, but his 3p% (37.7%) is good i cant really speak about his game, given i dont watch our games anymore, but he might be a project like simons and i wish he got full season to play without pressure, it would do wonders for him whats good for him is that chauncey billups isnt scared to play young guys unlike terry stotts, so theres that
just looking at their stats, brandon has better fg% (38.7%), which isnt good, compared to keons (35.7%), which is even worse, but keon is having much better better 3p% (37.7%), compared to brandons (30.9%) and brandon is two years older
Do you believe he has the job regardless of how the Pels puck goes or do you think they’re still performing a search?
keon turned 20 in march its his second season and has no real experience, played in only 32 games averaging 16.8 min per game, hes just getting started, so hes definitely a project and we shouldnt expect anything from him (except development) until his 4th season as he wont play next season given were gonna compete