<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post"> If KG was on the Spurs, he would have a couple rings too, if not more than Duncan. KG would have won his second straight MVP last season if his team didn't fail. And he would probably be set up to win it a 3rd time this season if he wasn't in the team situation hes in. All that just shows that KG could be great if he wasn't plagued by not being supported with a good enough team.</div>There are a whole lot of "ifs" in this paragraph. KG has played along some good players. Spreewell, Cassell, Hudson, Wally isn't that bad. I agree that KG is a great player and he is unselfish but TD is still the best OVERALL player the NBA has to offer.
Sprewell - 2 seasons, 1 when he cared and the second when he didn't. Conference Finals - Missed Playoffs Cassell - 2 seasons, 1 when healthy, 1 not Conference Finals - Missed Playoffs Hudson - What!? Wally isn't that bad, he showed some promise last season. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">.....but TD is still the best OVERALL player the NBA has to offer.</div> Can't agree with ya'. Is it because I don't respect Tim? No, when asked who I would want to start a franchise with going with the current stats, Shaq and Tim are on the top. But when a player has/can play all 5 positions, plus are putting up number in assists/points/rebounds that mirror legends of the game, you have to take that into effect. We talk about rings. Sheeds gotta ring, Horry has like 12. Are we saying KG's overrated? I'd say not. Are we asking if he's the best overall player (as in playing the game)? I'd probably say so.
KG is one of these rare players that can play all 5 positions at the height of 6'11. His game makes everyone else on the floor a lot better and that's why many consider him to be a true player to build around. Garnett can carry a team, but like any great player, only to a certain extent. Guy can't do much when the other 4 guys on the team are lacking in certain areas or there's not much team chemistry/talent/depth on the team. It's why teams like the Pistons, Spurs, and Lakers have won rings is because they've had a lot of those championship ingredients and a very balanced roster in terms of offense and defense capabilities. I'm in the same philosophy as coach Jeff Van Gundy that balanced teams with a good starting 5 that can play together and a decent bench will go far in the playoffs so long as they have a franchise player or two to lead the way. KG can play defense like a top defender, he can score and he makes everyone else better like a true franchise player does. All around players with immense talent and leadership skills do that. I think between him and TD as the best player in the game it's a bit of a wash. Tim Duncan is one of the most dominant power forward/centers in the game next to Shaq and also sports a great all around game for a big man, but who knows what the Spurs would be like if they didn't have Popovich and guys who can mix it up defensively and offensively like Manu Ginobilli, Tony Parker, etc (Having Bruce Bowen is like having a Ron Artest on defense). Those two (or three) guys in the backcourt make Tim Duncan better. Like Sabretooth mentioned having Spree concentrated on money more than winning shook things up as well as Sam Casell being injured all the time. I don't think Troy Hudson really was a factor either because of his injuries. Wallyworld is wallyworld (A soft, high % shooter that never met a shot he didn't like). Then the Wolves kind of put defensive specialist Ervin Johnson aside in favor of underachieving Michael "Kandiman" Olowakandi. I'm not too sold on Trenton Hassell as being one of the best defensive stoppers in the league, but he's better than most and who else did the Twolves have that could play perimeter D? KG's main weapon is his versatility since he's not really a low post type of player, but I think the pieces built around him weren't championship material (this of course is in hindsight after I felt a good Spree/Sam I Am backcourt and a good big man like KG could possibly be championship ring worthy). KG's also made guys like Wallyworld and over 30 years old Sam Cassell into allstars and that's something to marvel at since Wallyworld is kind of one-dimensional and Cassell is an old player, is slow and not even a pure point guard. Great basketball I.Q. and midrange shot though. I think if KG gets a good pure point guard and some other guys that fit KG's style, the Wolves could be serious contenders again. But the window of opportunity is closing and I don't know if I've agreed with the pick they took in the draft...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">There are a whole lot of "ifs" in this paragraph. KG has played along some good players. Spreewell, Cassell, Hudson, Wally isn't that bad. I agree that KG is a great player and he is unselfish but TD is still the best OVERALL player the NBA has to offer.</div> I love these overrated threads back in the wee-old days I used to post. It always turns into the classic - Duncan v. Garnett, Kobe the next Jordan (?) classic threads. Rudeezy... I must defer this because A. You are talking about either 1 dimensional players, 1ish year wonders, or players well past their prime. Garnett has never had a 7 footer who has dominated the league - and maybe a tad past his prime, David Robison was still a force period in Tim's first championship run. Now, are we debating success, or skill? You can not judge a players ability vs winning championships. 1 Man can only bring you so far... especially in a era where money is the deciding factor in creating championship teams. Having players like Garrnett, Duncan, Iverson are rare to have on one squad their entire career now. I grant a lot of the success of the Spurs (not Duncan) to their front office. Winning championships takes veterans, skilled players and all around team. Very few 1 man teams have won it. You look back on history and the repeat champs, the dominate focus of the team had their future HOF - Shaq had his Kobe, Jordan had his Pippen ect ect. Obviously Spurs have had more TEAM success, while Garnett and Duncan have had almost equal if not exact individual success. Garnett is overrated... I highly doubt that. Hes been a 1 man show for his entire career. Remember the Spurs 99 champsionship run.. The Spurs swept the Lakers, and the Blazers (who ironically where the WC power houses the next couple years), but lost only 1 WC Playoff game to - thats right Kevin Garnett's Minnesota Timberwolves (shock). Obviously the man has the power to control a team - his first chance to have good (not great) team at best - he showed what he could do in the '04 playoffs - and I believe if they could have betean the Lakers... they would have done much better against the Pistons because the fact they werent just a 1-2 punch team. Obviously disfunction caught up with them. Obviously statisicly Garnett is there every year... 20/10/5... we all know the numbers... and obviously this is a nice feat every year with only great players on that list or multiple seasons - Bird, Oscar, Wilt ect ect. Simply put - Garnett isnt overrated. To say something, Id have to question the narrow mindness to realize the every sport is a team game - and there is no 1 man show in any of the major league sports, including basketball. And to consider him overrated simply because he hasnt won a championship yet, would be saying the same for Malone, Barkley ect - who were obviously some of the greatest of all time... easily. With all that said - fire McHale. Edit - I didnt go into why Garnett is a great player because of skill because I think custodianrules2 covered that part pretty well...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Name a player in this league thats better. Simple as that. Theres only one answer: No one Thats it. Forget anyone else, i've argued this so many times its just boring. Kobe Bryant is laughable as the best player in the league, and Duncan is a well-deserved second best in the league. Maybe he will never win a ring and that would be a shame, but theres still several years left in his career. People tend to be ignorant to the fact that if he won a couple rings he would be acknowledged as one of the best players of all-time. Thats a straight fact too, think about it. Hes got everyhing except the success. Plug in the success and hes one of the all-time best. Without the success, he just has to stay the best player in the league.</div> First, Duncan is better. Second, u said "People tend to be ignorant to the fact that if he won a couple rings he would be acknowledged as one of the best players of all-time". Thats an 'if' and a huge one at that. Hang on let me say what you are saying "If Derek Fisher averaged 40ppg and 15apg throughout his career he would go in to the hall of fame and be the best point guard ever". You can't say 'if' this and 'if' that, it just doesn't go that way. The fact is KG has never won a ring and TD is a better player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">First, Duncan is better. Second, u said "People tend to be ignorant to the fact that if he won a couple rings he would be acknowledged as one of the best players of all-time". Thats an 'if' and a huge one at that. Hang on let me say what you are saying "If Derek Fisher averaged 40ppg and 15apg throughout his career he would go in to the hall of fame and be the best point guard ever". You can't say 'if' this and 'if' that, it just doesn't go that way. The fact is KG has never won a ring and TD is a better player.</div> Claiming that Duncan is a better player only on the basis that he has won a ring is kind of blind to the fact that their is 4 other positions to be played, and 11 other spots on the roster to be filled.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">First, Duncan is better.</div> Good Argument <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">Second, u said "People tend to be ignorant to the fact that if he won a couple rings he would be acknowledged as one of the best players of all-time". </div> Is KG being one of the best players in question? If he wins a couple of rings or not, he will still get his credit due to what he's done already. And you (thinking people) do have to give credit to the management of the Spurs since they are intelligent in their decision making in doing what they need to, to get the ring. I heard "GINOBLIIIII" as much as I've heard of Duncan recently.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">First, Duncan is better. Second, u said "People tend to be ignorant to the fact that if he won a couple rings he would be acknowledged as one of the best players of all-time". Thats an 'if' and a huge one at that. Hang on let me say what you are saying "If Derek Fisher averaged 40ppg and 15apg throughout his career he would go in to the hall of fame and be the best point guard ever". You can't say 'if' this and 'if' that, it just doesn't go that way. The fact is KG has never won a ring and TD is a better player.</div> How is TD a better player? Just because you said so? I mean give a little reasoning here. I mean it's two types of guys who do different things for their teams and both have MVP impact on the game. TD is more like the body of a center that plays like either a face up shooting power forward or a low-post center. Kevin Garnett is more like the classic bodied lean, tall, athletic SF/PF/C basketball player that can put the ball on the floor, score and pass. We can debate stats all we want, those figures change in the context of how the team is playing together with split up roles and responsibilities. Tim Duncan obviously shoulders a lot less of the pressure because of the help he has. Having guys like Manu, Parker, Bowen, Horry, Stephen Jackson and coach Greg Popovich really alleviated a lot of that pressure that Duncan had to shoulder by himself because the team has a real system of plays and more talent skilled on both ends of the floor. He's never been a real clutch player, but he's certainly been the most consistent producer and a force inside, from midrange off glass, and on all around defense. Garnett is also consistent, multi-skilled offensive player, but he's got a lot more to carry on his shoulders and he's having to do different things for his team to make the team better than it was. He's had to be the playmaker for a team that lacked playmaking ability. He's had to come up with rebounding, scoring, blocks, steals, defense stops and of course, assists. He's had to play center, power forward, small forward, shooting guard, point guard at times because the team just doesn't have anyone that can take the pressure off of him (and Garnett's main strength is his versatility). Think of him as Lebron James' situation. He's a leader across the board in nearly every category, because he's really the only one talented enough on both ends and in playmaking ability to make the team go. So with Lebron you could find him playing any of pg, sg, or sf in the past (Probably hefty enough at 240 lbs to play some power forward too). Anyway, given the fact that most teams value a low post offensive threat at center or power forward more than an all around skill player, I can see why most fans would build a team around 6 foot 11 Tim Duncan. He's a quiet, 20/10 + huge blocks player and he plays a position where very few big man can move with their feet and use their body to score inside. There's really no good PF/C's in the entire league that do all the things a big man should in addition to passing the rock out of the post. I mean there's Elton Brand who shows good numbers but not quite the impact, Jermaine O'neil who doesn't pass, Zach Randolph who doesn't play any D and doesn't pass, but then there's really nobody else besides a Shaq in his prime that's more dominant going inside that could average 20 points and 10 rebounds + blocks with that style of play. Even if Eddy Curry averages 20 points, where is the rebounding and defense and passing that a center should have? That leaves only Yao Ming and possibly Big Z if you consider that Z always gets hurt and his defensive game and inside game is a bit poorer than Yao's.
KG is the best all around player in the league. Duncan has a better cast around him. The Timberwolves have done a TERRIBLE job at putting players around him. Once they finally got somebody that can actually play, they refused to pay them. KG has been dealt a bad hand, and when they get some talent around him, he'll be reconized as the best player in the league.
Talent wise and athletiscism KG has an advantage over TD for sure, statistically KG probably will get the nod over him too. KG is more versatile, no questions asked. But if I were to choose between Garnett, Kobe, or Duncan to build a team around. I would take Duncan everytime, without hesitation. Duncan is a team player, who works hard on defense. The guy is humble, and works hard on offense to help his teammates. I can see Duncan fitting in with most teams and getting along with coaches and players, and improving their chemistry and team defense. I would be reluctant to say the same thing about Kevin Garnett.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Talent wise and athletiscism KG has an advantage over TD for sure, statistically KG probably will get the nod over him too. KG is more versatile, no questions asked. But if I were to choose between Garnett, Kobe, or Duncan to build a team around. I would take Duncan everytime, without hesitation. Duncan is a team player, who works hard on defense. The guy is humble, and works hard on offense to help his teammates. I can see Duncan fitting in with most teams and getting along with coaches and players, and improving their chemistry and team defense. I would be reluctant to say the same thing about Kevin Garnett.</div> Which part? Team player? You mean sharing the ball, or trying to fire up the teammates for the game. I think Garnett is one of the best team players in the game. He had no problem sharing the ball with any of the players that show up on the team. Humble? Obviously more so than Garnett - but when do you see Garnett proclaiming he is something hes not? The man has a lot of convidence in himself but isnt exactly out in the media claiming hes the best since MJ touched the ball. Team Defense? I think Garnett has always been mention to be among the leagues best defensive players - always their with blocks and steals and he was in one of the most "team defensive" oriented systems when they played the zone pretty well in Minnesota. All the things you are listing are proffessional issues when matching Garnett up to Duncan. Garnett is one of the most proffessional NBA players the league has to offer. As well as Duncan is.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">I love these overrated threads back in the wee-old days I used to post. It always turns into the classic - Duncan v. Garnett, Kobe the next Jordan (?) classic threads.</div>haha I hate these threads as well. Good to see ya purehoops, its been a while. And just to clear it up, I don't think KG is overrated by any means. I just believe that Tim Duncan is the best player in the league because he has proved it. It is my fault for getting this thread off topic but I just thought I would give my 2 cents. Is it TD's fault that he has had a better supporting cast around him than KG? Should he be penalized for that? This argument is all just a matter of opinion. As Custodian stated, they are two different type of players that do different things.
Well, I guess I will put my 2 cents into the conversation.......... First off let me say that KG is not overatted in the overall scheme of things, he is a Top 2 or 3 player in this league, and I feel that is just...But a few aspects of his game are overatted. First off, his leadership is overatted, a bit. I think he sets a standard in practices that are great. But as a leader...I dont know, he let to many distractions break that team last year. And he pretty much stood silent and never really took a leadership role the way he should have to gain order. Alot of people made excuses for him not taking control in those situation by saying alot of those guys were his friends(particularily my man Sam and Sprewell)...But a great leader knows how to seperate friendships from the task at hand and knows how to keep his troops in line. KG did not demonstrate this last season. I honestly think that as much as Cassell and Sprewell didnt respect Flip Suanders as their Coach, so many say. And think they had the same lack of respect for KG as their on-court leader. Iam definately not saying that they didnt like the guy in fact as a person, I think they had alot of love for him. But on-court, Iam not for sure if they ever bought into him being the guy that would lead them through the fire. You can tell by some of their actions...and also with some of their comments. Cassell, I remember stated to the Minny, press on several occassions that he encouraged KG to take a more stronger hold of the team. A leader really shouldnt have to be told by 2nd or 3rd, in command to step up the leadership role. Also, I think that KG doesnt handle adversity the best....last year, the Wolves had alot of 4th quarter letdowns without the pressence of a healthy Cassell(who covered up this short coming in KG's game in 03-04). And those Meltdowns alot of times were spherehead by KG falling apart. You can start at the very beinging of the season with the game vs Devner and see show KG lost his cool in a tight game in the fourth quarter and the Wolves loosing. And go on down the line for the season. KG doesnt handle pressure situations as well as alot of other leaders do. I know alot of people like to bring up game 7 of the Western Semifinals to prove that KG step his game up in the pressure situation. And that he did....but also take a look at the entire playoffs and see some of his notable meltdowns when the Wolves were in adverse situations during that playoff. His situation with Peeler happen in a game the Wolves were loosing...a situation KG created cause he couldnt really handle the fact the Wolves were on their way to an L. Look at the Denver series with Elson, all the incidents happen during the tight closely contested games in Denver. So I say Leadership is a overatted aspect of his game. There are others parts to his low post game...but I think more and more people are starting to discover that he isnt really strong with his back to the basket, so I dont really consider it overatted anymore.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">haha I hate these threads as well. Good to see ya purehoops, its been a while. And just to clear it up, I don't think KG is overrated by any means. I just believe that Tim Duncan is the best player in the league because he has proved it.</div> /nod. Good to get some time to post - however Ill eventually find my way out of the Timberwolves forum. Im not knocking your notion to think Tim Duncan is the best the NBA has to offer - cause everyone has their own opinion... that what makes the NBA great - but the easiest thing to knock Kevin for is his rival Tim Duncan success. And it isnt a knock to Tim for having a better all around team - its more of a knock to the Timberwolves front office - and a praise to him for taking the talent he has around him - and taking it where its supposed to be. And let it be known, whether we admit it or not, Timberwolves fan, and especially us fans of Garnett - have always envied the fact that Duncan has always had the David Robinson, or Parker to Manu. Garnett never had the all-star mentor - while I will never sacrafice what Sam Mitchell did for Kevin. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">But a few aspects of his game are overatted. </div> While I agree with a lot of what you posted, about him not stepping up and taking absolute control of the situation... I still see you pointing out a season of error rather than looking at the overrall picture. Obviously - last season wasn't exactly the winning season the Wolves, and Wolves fans had predicited after last seasons success. As much as I would love to argue the fact that he didn't seperate that frendship with a role on the team - I honestly argree ... which contributed to the meltdown last season. But as much as that was his fault - it was as Sprewell and Iam's fault as well. Not trusting KG to "take them through the fire" is as much as their fault not seeing that KG never "gives up" or doesn't show up to play every game as it was Garnett's supposed fault to not speak up. Is this a damage to his leadership skills, it was a season mistake - and with mistake comes a stronger individual - I think given the chance to play with Cassell this up coming season things would have been laid down a lil stronger from Kevin. Every great player has his leadership skills questioned - Duncan not being vocal enough with the Lakers dominating them in their championship runs, Shaq and Kobes meltdown together, and Garnett's inability to handle the disfunctional bunch - who could match his best quality - intensity. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that KG doesnt handle adversity the best....last year,</div> Last year, yes last year. Every season isnt a winning-a-championship season. KG has overcome a lot of adversity - starting from the very begining of his career. Predicted to be a failure because of his choice to come straight from HS to playing undersized (physically) in a position that is defined as a "power" position - playing guys usually 20+ pounds heavier and stronger than him - to leading always counted out teams to the playoffs in the conference that was so dominated for those 5-7 years. Obviously I can throw excuse after excuse to why this past season was a terrible one for the Wolves - but that is simply what it was. It was by far the most disapointment in Kevin's individualy outstanding career - and as you stated - some adveristy for him to overcome. And as a fan of the NBA - and watching him play so many times - I am certian he will bounce back from this.
Me again, I brought it up before that KG may be in need of his Jordan. A fiery leader who can funnel that energy and play side-by-side with one of the best in the game. He could McHale in need of a Bird, Worthy looking for the "Magic Man". He has great ability and I love to play along side players with his intensity, but sometime his fire can dilute his leadership. He has common sense and will not get thrown out of alot of games, but Cassell fit perfectly and it's a shame the duo had to end since he is a big game player and leader. Just like when KG was talking about Ervin Johnson and Sam Mitchell. He needs those kinds of players. Do remember, Duncan and Robinson had alot of time to work together. As soon as KG started to get close with a teammate, they were traded (Cassell), Killed (Sealy), Left (Gugliotta), or he wanted separation, but others won't take (Szcerbiak). One of the worst things are biased fans (This guy is better just because). I like alot of the players, but can see there flaws and when they do something that's not right, I can admit that. I bring reasoning with all of my opinions and ideas.
Kevin Garnett is an elite player in this league who is probably the most versatile athlete that this league has ever seen. He can score, defend, rebound, pass, handle the ball, lead and he competes every night. Never has this league seen a player of Garnett size capable of doing all the things that Kevin Garnett does well--however the key word in that statement is well. Kevin Garnett doesn't do anything great (outside of maybe rebounding) and that is why I believe he is overrated. Garnett consistently gets outplayed by Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzski in their head to head matchup. It got so bad with Duncan early in his career that he actually hit him in a playoff game. Knowing Duncan's demeanor, I'm assuming that his aggression was spurred by jealousy. Dirk is too talented on the perimeter to be consistently shut down by Garnett, and the more physical post players are too strong for Garnett to keep off of the blocks (ie. Shaq, Duncan, and to an extent Stoudamire). Plus Garnett signature move is a turn around jump shot. I'd prefer that my premier post guy get a shot closer to 5-10 feet from the basket in nip and tuck situations as opposed to relying on a 10-20 feet jump shot. The percentages are in the favor of the post player who can establish better post position. Garnett is the highest paid player in the league. His salary the next couple of years will be 18 million, 20 million, 22 million, and 24 million. People are upset that Minnesota can't bring in quality assets to help Garnett advance in the playoffs--well part of the reasons that they can't is because Garnett's salary puts the front office at a disadvantage in terms of spending. No owner wants to pay the luxury tax, especially if the franchise has a history of underachieving. In the 2003-2004 season Minnesota thrived because Garnett was the best player on the court for the T'Wolves the first 47 minutes of a game and in crunch time situations they allowed Sam Cassell to make the big play. When Sam got injured in the playoffs the T'Wolves looked tremendously out of sync late in games. I know that I have little statistics to back up these statements but the fact that Garnett has been unable to take his team to an elite level shows that he is not as dominant as many believe he is. Garnett is one of the top talents in this league, but I'll continue to argue that greatness shouldn't be defined by versatility, it should be defined by dominance.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">I brought it up before that KG may be in need of his Jordan. A fiery leader who can funnel that energy and play side-by-side with one of the best in the game. He could McHale in need of a Bird, Worthy looking for the "Magic Man". He has great ability and I love to play along side players with his intensity, but sometime his fire can dilute his leadership. He has common sense and will not get thrown out of alot of games, but Cassell fit perfectly and it's a shame the duo had to end since he is a big game player and leader. Just like when KG was talking about Ervin Johnson and Sam Mitchell. He needs those kinds of players. Do remember, Duncan and Robinson had alot of time to work together. As soon as KG started to get close with a teammate, they were traded (Cassell), Killed (Sealy), Left (Gugliotta), or he wanted separation, but others won't take (Szcerbiak). </div> Sabretooth, I think that was a well analyzed look at KG's needs as a player. I think Cassell did manage to play a large role as that leader that KG needed and Cassell could hit some incredible 4th quarter 3s. It was ridiculous how many clutch 3s he hit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iron Shiek:</div><div class="quote_post">Garnett is one of the top talents in this league, but I'll continue to argue that greatness shouldn't be defined by versatility, it should be defined by dominance.</div>That is a great point and it pretty much sums it all up.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iron Shiek:</div><div class="quote_post">Garnett is one of the top talents in this league, but I'll continue to argue that greatness shouldn't be defined by versatility, it should be defined by dominance.</div> He dominates through his versatilty. Just because his eggs arnt all in one basket and he dominates on area of the game doesn't mean he isnt great. His greatest is his ability to DOMINATE every area of the game. There isnt an area of the game that he doesn't contribute... and to consider that to be far from great is taking to word dominate and transforming the meaning to being a 1 dimensional player. To compare the two words is trivial. Edit: My last little piece on this... Its easy to point out what the great players don't do. (For instance we can point out that Duncan doesn't shoot FTs well, doesnt play well 20 feet from the basket ect). But it isnt what great players don't do that make them great - its what the do that does. Garnett does everything - he has taken a "POWER" position and has taken it an extra 10-15 feet away from the basket and uses altheticism to keep up with the bigger guys. He contributes in every single area of the game, scoring, passing, defense (steals, blocks), ect ect so on and so forth. To consider the guy has been ridiculed from everything to coming out of HS, not being able to get of the first round, being paid as the highest paid player, not being able to handle a disfunctional bunch of over the hill vets - the man still plays ball with the best - and is one of the best. We could argue any of the great players out the water that isnt named Jordan, Wilt, Bird or Magic - but its what they DID do that makes them great - not what they didnt.
The fact that he hasn't won anything yet makes people think that he is overrated. He like a lot of you have said, has not gotton any sort of help from the T'Wolves front office to put a half decent team on the floor. I definitely feel Rashad will step in right away and ease the pain that has hurt KG for his whole career but it is going to take more than McCants to have this team going places. They look like they are headed in the right direction, with two draft picks next year, and a younger team that shows promise but I mean where was this help when KG was 22 or 23? Garnett isn't getting any younger. I'm not saying that Garnett is past his "dominate" days but the man is going to be 30 at the end of this coming season and the T'Wolves should really focus on getting some players now rather than wait for them to develop a couple years from now where Garnett will be 32-33 and past his prime.
