Kevin Love AGAIN (with poll)

Just playing devil' advocate, (since I have been making the same argument) in 11 years Love has played over 55 games 9 times. He has played 73+ ......5 times. Until this last year when I think they held him out of some games where he could have played in, he had played 82% of his game with the Cavs.

His biggest injuries seem to be broken hands and elbows to his face. Not a great sign he gets injured so often but at least they are not career threatening injuries.

But to answer your question.....Collins. Which is why I would not include him (or Simons) in the trade.

 

Impossible. He's a free agent and New Orleans doesn't have his bird rights so they can't really sign and trade him and he's too expensive for our current methods to sign free agents this summer.

 

Randle just rejected 9 million, no way he comes to Portland fams

 

Yeah everyone seems to want Julius. He is getting 15-20 million this year.

 

More than that. It'll be $22-26M

 

They really should't:

Not really surprising that the two teams who've had him haven't been so sorry to see him go.

 

They're not really comparable. They may be the complete mirror images of each other.

BUT: (a) I'm assuming taking Tristan is part of the price for getting Love, and (b) he was the starting center on a championship team.

 

Nice line. But if he ever achieved "true greatness" then he would be better than anyone we would be giving up for him.

 

I don't think it would be one of Simons/Collins, it would either be just Collins or both. I think this forum rates Simons way better than anyone else in the league would. He's really not proven anything. Yes he's young, but that one game against a team of scrubs that weren't playing for anything means basically nothing. People here act like it cements him as a future star.

 

Idk, Simons was widely thought of as a future lottery pick before he decommitted from Louisville. I believe he was a top 5-10 recruit.

 

Not really what we need, at all

 

Not to pick on you, specifically, but I've never liked this logic, which I've seen every offseason.

By that logic, Zion has proved absolutely nothing - he's never even scored a single point at the NBA level. Does that mean
the Pels should just trade the #1 pick for Harkless? No.

Simons has shown he can score at all levels, even as a complete noob. If he has the right mental makeup, he'll go far.

But, yes, he still has to do it. Just like Zion does.

As for KLove. If on the cheap, OK. Otherwise, no.

 

And this is how you end up with the Jermaine situation

 

Why don’t we focus on players who can at least guard their own shadow

 

Pelicans fans are ecstatic he isn’t returning.

He is atrocious on defense

 

So all players who have shown any ability have the same potential? Does Gary Trent have the exact same potential as Simons?

People are just acting like he's a sure thing based on such little evidence.

 

So when you saw Simons in summer league and/or the Gleague, regardless of his stats, did you not think his potential was high?
That maybe he had a little something special? Maybe not next year but eventually? Did he and Trent look the same to you?

 

Maybe. But that's it, just maybe. Jerryd Bayless looked amazing in summer league. I learned my lesson years ago in regards to getting hyped over such small sample size, against poor competition.

 

I'm not saying I think he'll be bad either. I do think he has a chance to be a great player but it just seems like it's a forgone conclusion to people here. And that doesn't make sense to me.

 

Its true you never know, but at the same time you have to make some educated guesses. It's just like the draft. He just turned 20 but to me he looks like a shorter but more athletic version of Kevin Martin. (before his injuries) Kevin Martin is his floor. Not sure who his ceiling is. I will have to think about that.